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Old 08-22-2018, 11:22 AM
 
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Are you a lawyer?

You are claiming to know the law better than the prosecutor, the judge who accepted the plea, and the defendant who is also a lawyer himself.
I am claiming to know the law better than you. Also, the judge has not weighed in on the legal issues associated with this by receiving this "plea deal," while Mueller and the prosecutor are pretty clearly playing politics with this.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:23 AM
 
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Baseless charges? Did you read the transcripts? Because you might want to.


"...the defendant caused an illegal contribution....for the purposes of influencing the election"

"The proof on these counts at trial would establish that these payments were made in order that each recipient of the payments did not publicize their alleged affairs with the candidate."

They prosecution stated that they have evidence including, "text messages, messages sent over encrypted applications, phone messages, and emails" - Also, "hard copy documents, seized electronic devices, and audiorecordings made by Mr. Cohen."

Instead of just pontificating on how baseless the charges are because some talking head told you so, or reading a 3rd hand account, doing some research of your own using original source material, like an actual court transcript, might lead you to some different conclusions. The pressure came from the fact that there is actual EVIDENCE!
Oh, quit confusing Trumpeters with the facts!
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:23 AM
 
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This is what the Republicans are running on.

Have seen it mentioned on the news several times now. Vote for Republicans or the Democrats will impeach Trump.

Though why the House Democrats would try to impeach Trump is anybody's guess. It would die in the Senate as the Constitution requires a two thirds super majority to convict and evven the most optimistic do not imagine the Senate being two-thirds Democratic in January. So why bother?

Better to hold hearings and sponsor investigations until every Republican is exposed for their role in this criminal and corrupt endeavor.
When has logic been a friend to Trump or the GOP?

There is no logic to how they feel about HRC--after Trey Gowdy's years of trying to blame her for Benghazi w/o any luck --in a GOP house and senate---

I find snakes don't have a lot of logic or room for abstract thought in their small brains--
Eat, screw, and protection --
Hibernation in colder climes isn't even a matter of thought because their bodies' systems cannot function below certain temps---like a car can't operate if the battery is dead...
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I am claiming to know the law better than you. Also, the judge has not weighed in on the legal issues associated with this by receiving this "plea deal," and the prosecutor is pretty clearly playing politics with this.
I take that to mean you are not a lawyer.

Given that, I think you need to sit down and shut up. Your pronouncements are clearly unfounded and your understanding of the situation is clearly inferior to all of the other parties involved, including the defendant who as a lawyer is aware of what he pled to.

If there was no wrongdoing, he wouldn't have admitted any.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:23 AM
 
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The court has no jurisdiction over this question,....

and you believe that michael cohen and lanny davis, both lawyers, weren't aware of this?
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:23 AM
 
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and if someone paid the photographer $130,000 not to release photos of the crappy haircut* that would be considered a campaign contribution by FEC regulations.

if you want to remain blind that's your right, just don't be surprised when the outcome goes different then you expect ( or claim "deep state" ).

* how could his haircut get worse?
That is exactly wrong. No, it would not.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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That is what actually has happened in this instance.
So you keep saying, but neither your example nor your link supports the assertion.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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cohen has already admitted this week that the purpose of the payments were so the stories wouldn't have a detrimental affect on the campaign.






doesn't matter. the payments were made with the specific purpose of helping the campaign making them an unreported campaign contribution no matter where the funds came from.

There is no proof of that and never will be.
Remember Comey was dealing with serious Hillary crimes with much more evidence and he didn't charge her because he said he couldn't or didn't have provable intent.

Get a grip and realize the left is being duped by propaganda in media and the idiot Lanny Davis. He will be in Hillary's house soon doing coke off the kitchen table.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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and you believe that michael cohen and lanny davis, both lawyers, weren't aware of this?
What do Cohen and Davis care? They are trying to get Cohen the best deal that they can, and if Mueller wants this charge in there and will reduce Cohen's sentence in return, that is fine with them.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:28 AM
 
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See--that explains everything
John Edwards was a Democrat---
Anything he did was illegal...according to the Heritage Foundation (who is also backing Kavanaugh to the hilt).

Have the same case with a Republican--why you must be cray-cray to think there is anything untoward....

The GOP just needs to changes its moniker--
POH--party of hypocrites....
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