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Old 08-22-2018, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Because he should have never been here. You can defend Illegals all you want, but it wont change the fact that you are wrong.
I'm not defending anyone and I never have. I agree illegal immigrants shouldn't be here and we should stop protecting them.

However, the story is that Mollie was found, dead. That's the story. Trying to use her death to push a political agenda is just plain wrong.

Want to have immigration reform? I'm all for it. But don't use a dead 20 year old girl as a poster child. For all of the immigrants who have murdered, there are many more who haven't and don't deserve to be lumped in and called murderers.

It's under the same principle of 9/11 and the Islamaphobia. Deal with illegal immigration. Don't make all illegal immigrants look like murders. Just like not all Muslims are terrorists.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:06 AM
 
Location: So California
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She's still dead.


Yeah, so is JFK. There is a reason why.


Very dishonest of you, if your sister died in a car crash, hit by a drunk driver....who cares why, she's just dead! Don't even prosecute the drunk driver, it won't bring her back.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:08 AM
 
Location: So California
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I'm not defending anyone and I never have. I agree illegal immigrants shouldn't be here and we should stop protecting them.

However, the story is that Mollie was found, dead. That's the story. Trying to use her death to push a political agenda is just plain wrong.

Want to have immigration reform? I'm all for it. But don't use a dead 20 year old girl as a poster child. For all of the immigrants who have murdered, there are many more who haven't and don't deserve to be lumped in and called murderers.

It's under the same principle of 9/11 and the Islamaphobia. Deal with illegal immigration. Don't make all illegal immigrants look like murders. Just like not all Muslims are terrorists.



Its simply a reason to push immigration reform and controls. A valid one.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Yeah, so is JFK. There is a reason why.


Very dishonest of you, if your sister died in a car crash, hit by a drunk driver....who cares why, she's just dead! Don't even prosecute the drunk driver, it won't bring her back.
Did I ever once say "don't prosecute?"

No - I never, ever did. You're the one who is being "dishonest" and making up fantasies.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:11 AM
 
Location: USA
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Because he should have never been here. You can defend Illegals all you want, but it wont change the fact that you are wrong.
What if illegal immigrants, for example, committed murder at a lower rate than citizens do? In that case, 20 year-old joggers would actually be safer with more illegal immigrants.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Denver
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What if illegal immigrants, for example, committed murder at a lower rate than citizens do? In that case, 20 year-old joggers would actually be safer with more illegal immigrants.
They're having a hard time separating the fact that a girl was murdered from the fact that the murder was an illegal.

The fact that he was an illegal did not compel him to murder Mollie.

The issue stems that he shouldn't have been there in the first place, which I agree with.

But again, even if he was a "legal" citizen, his actions would have most likely been the same in the same situation.

A murderer is going to murder someone regardless of citizenship status.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:31 AM
 
Location: So California
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Did I ever once say "don't prosecute?"

No - I never, ever did. You're the one who is being "dishonest" and making up fantasies.


Wrong. You're trying to sit on the fence, that time is over. Prosecution is not a question, the larger issue has to be discussed.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I despise violent criminals whether they are legal or undocumented. The fact is 12 million undocumented are here now and I support hunting down the one's that are violent offenders, however I object to them all being demonized. Many of them I assume are good people.
Actually, they are illegal aliens.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Central Washington
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A guest on PMSnbc dismissed Mollie Tibbitts as "a girl in Iowa" that "Fox news is talking about".
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...-iowa-fox-news

Other reporters were criticizing Fox for covering a police press conference.
The Media Is Angry That Fox Is Covering The Mollie Tibbetts Murder | The Daily Caller
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:35 AM
 
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The woman is dead. Who killed her matters less than the fact that she's dead.

If some guy born down the street from her, both parents US citizens killed her, she'd still be dead.
That's NOT this case, if he was born here it would be LESS preventable, being that he WASN"T born here AND/OR shouldn't be here.

IT WOULD/SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOTALLY PREVENTABLE.

I guess THAT important point is lost on you isn't it !!!
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