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Old 08-22-2018, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
Europe has a tariff on US made imports. So we have a tariff on European imports. They drop their tariffs, we drop ours.

Simple.
The average EU tariff on US imports is less than 3%, whilst the average US tariff is very low on EU goods and averages around 3.3%.

The EU is the biggest US export market with $528 billion US exports, and the same is true of the EU which exports $629 billion to the United States making for a mere $101 Billion deficit on $1.1 Trllion worth of annual trade.

The EU market is as crucial to the US as the US market is to the EU, and any tariffs could result in millions of job losses, as the EU would go beyond cars when hitting back and is capable of hitting back hard in terms of $528 Billion US imports.

The EU have a much better hand to play with than China in terms of retaliatory tariffs.

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Old 08-22-2018, 06:43 AM
 
Location: USA
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Good. More jobs for American robots instead of those lousy European robots.
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Old 08-22-2018, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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So instead of paying $125K for a Mercedes S-Classe, you can get a Cadillac or a Tesla instead.

Why are the leftists mad about this?
Americans love SUVs and buy the MB GLs and GLE, assembled in Alabama.
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Nearly 100 years ago, Ford Motors built its first offshore plant in what is now the UK.

They did so to avoid import tariffs and shipping costs to compete with European brands.
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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It is interesting to see the "party of the working man" attack someone doing something to help the working man. Something that Democrats had called for for years. I guess Democrats are done pretending that they care about working people.
Because we've learned it no longer helps the working man, it does more harm than good. So yes, democrats still ARE the party of the working man.
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:07 AM
 
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Good. More jobs for American robots instead of those lousy European robots.
While we are at it we gotta stop all these illegal undocumented robots from taking the jobs of good hard working American born robots!
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Americans love SUVs and buy the MB GLs and GLE, assembled in Alabama.
And you think their price won't go up?

Wake up!
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It is interesting to see the "party of the working man" attack someone doing something to help the working man. Something that Democrats had called for for years. I guess Democrats are done pretending that they care about working people.
Maybe they don't see how kicking someone in the gut helps them.

"I'm gonna raise the price on your goods by 25%, and I'm doing it for your own good".

And you believe it
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: PSL
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/trum...ean-union.html

In other words, he wants to severely restrict competition. He's practically a Communist at this point.
Wait a minute...

First he was literally Hitler and a fascist.
Now he's a communist? Pick one TDS sufferers. He's either Hitler or Stalin. He can't be both.

By the way. Per your article. The president has said he could impose tariffs of 20 to 25 percent on auto imports.

A niche market who can afford those cars already coming in, are akin to the Bugatti Veyron owner that pays a Million dollars or more for a car, then cry about a 22k dollar oil change...




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Americans love SUVs and buy the MB GLs and GLE, assembled in Alabama.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
And you think their price won't go up?

Wake up!
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Maybe they don't see how kicking someone in the gut helps them.

"I'm gonna raise the price on your goods by 25%, and I'm doing it for your own good".

And you believe it
Finn. That's vehicles being IMPORTED.
The tariffs will be applied to vehicles imported.
If the manufacturer decides to spread that cost across the board on their domestic produced vehicles, that's their choice.

Wait a minute. Hold the phone.

Are my eyes deceiving me here in this thread?
Weren't leftists here who were critical of Trump's tax cuts, and howling for taxing the rich, now complaining that the rich are being taxed? LOL this gets more amusing every day...

Exactly what cars are being imported from Europe?
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The U.S. imported about 1.26 million vehicles annually from Europe in 2017, according to LMC Automotive. About half come from Germany, according to Evercore ISI. Most are luxury vehicles.
Oh noes.... cityiot libs Audi BMW Mercedes are going to cost more not fun when taxes effect you now, is it?

BMW made 371,000 cars in the United States in 2017, exported 272,000 of these, sold the remaining 99,000 U.S.-built cars in the U.S. market, and imported roughly 255,000 cars for U.S. buyers in 2017.

This is what the tariffs are addressing^

99k domestically produced BMWs opposed to 255k imported BMWs.

What's this?
He said European Union?

Wait a minute... could that mean?
Lamborghini (owned by VW/Audi) BMWs, Ferrari, Maserati (Fiat/Chrysler) Niche market Wolfsburg VWs, LandRovers, Jaguars, Niche market HIGH END luxury cars/SUVs being built in european countries, and imported to America, are being subject to a 25% tariff?

I'm confused.
Weren't the leftists here screaming over tax cuts and firmly believe in taxing the rich for more social program funding? Oh you've changed your minds now that it has an impact on you, but silence when you tried your hand at raising fuel taxes in the name of "Muh Glowbull Wamingz" to impact pickup truck owners. Silence when ever restrictive emissions control devices were mandatory that causes decreased longevity and increased fuel consumption along with down time for catastrophic failures. But outrage over BMW Mercedes Audi Wolfsburg VWs land rovers jaguars etc etc.

Are we having a moment of clarity an epiphany that higher taxes are a bad thing?
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:42 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Has what to do with punishing american consumers and workers? Pointy hat for you.
Woah, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves now Frank it gets better.
Remember everyone shrieking over the tax cuts and wanting higher taxes for the rich?

Well...
They're getting them. Those luxury cars elitists in cities all own don't believe me take a trip to NYC tell me what you see. Scarsdale full of Mercedes, BMW, Escalades, Audis, Land Rover/Range Rover, Jaguar, etc etc.

Go to Miami. Palm Beach gardens. Take a look around.
What do you see?

High end luxury cars. Occasionally a Lamborghini a Ferrari mostly high end luxury cars from Europe.

Oh noes. We can't have that. When we said tax the rich we meant the middle class Tahoe, Suburban, Yukon, Silverado, F150, Expedition, 300C, Ram, etc upper middle class. Not the upper elite echelon of libville.

Well. They're getting their tax hike like they wanted.
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