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Old 08-21-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Actually, the terrorists already won.

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Within 72 hours of her trip to Tampa, air marshals received a “special mission coverage” package including Usry’s name and photo, her birthdate, her eye and hair color, as well as an identification number. Air marshals were then given seats near Usry on her flight.

Air marshals were required to follow Usry and take notes: Did she reverse or change directions during her stroll? Did she use the reflection of storefront windows to peer behind her? Did she go to the bathroom?

Usry does recall another aspect of her flight, something so out of the ordinary she mentioned it to her husband that day. It stands out to her now as a red flag.

“There was a guy in line that was super, super friendly,” she said. The clean-cut man boarded second to last, right before her, and was extremely chatty throughout the boarding process and during the flight.

“He asked where I was staying,” she said. “He was so nice and friendly. He gave me restaurant recommendations. In hindsight, it is weird and creepy.”

She said her odd travel ordeal extended to her return flight days later, an experience so exhausting and invasive that she cried at the gate. This time the screening and pat-down was even more rigorous.

TSA screeners were extremely hands-on and inquired about the underwire in her bra, she said, and asked if she was wearing a thong or panty liner.


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Courtney Vandersloot, a star point guard in the Women’s National Basketball Association, was recently followed by a team of armed air marshals during a domestic trip, according to documents reviewed by the Globe.

Vandersloot, who was born outside Seattle, also played hoops in Turkey for the last three seasons and was approved in 2016 for Global Entry, a federal program that allows expedited clearance for pre-approved, low-risk travelers.

Yet on domestic flights with teammates earlier this year, Vandersloot was pulled out of security and boarding lines with regularity. She recalled “pretty extreme” searches in which TSA agents asked, among other things, about her underwear.


Air Marshals Secretly Followed an Artsy Virginia Mom on Flights to Make Sure She Wasn't Going to Destroy America - Hit & Run : Reason.com

TSA says air marshals don’t follow ‘ordinary’ travelers. Some ordinary travelers beg to differ | Boston Globe

Can we all please put aside the partisan bickering to agree this needs to stop immediately? This is neither #MAGA nor #RESIST.
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Old 08-21-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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Colossal waste of money and time which would be better spent having an Israeli type of profiling and screening process.
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Old 08-21-2018, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Colossal waste of money and time which would be better spent having an Israeli type of profiling and screening process.
That still involves the State. A far better solution is to let the individual airlines determine which security process(es) they wish to use, and let the market decide which airlines customers trust to keep them safe.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:02 PM
 
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Who knows what these air marshalls are or aren't really doing?like most guv schemes everything is in secret. For our own protection they'll say. Following agency protocol, they'll say. Why does a govt ID badge make it okay to stalk,grope,feel up, assault, rifle though ones belongings,take nude pictures of, etc. No one would accept such intrusions from another individual or a private security firm and rightly so. Insult to injury is that we are all forced to pay the salaries of said perpetrators whether we fly or not.
I feel the best way to deal with this criminality is the least convenient or even possible and that is for people to stop flying en masse. But too many have been conditioned to accept the abuses and too many are entrenched in yet another govt jobs program to go back now.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:08 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Where can I sign up for this free police protection?
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Who knows what these air marshalls are or aren't really doing?like most guv schemes everything is in secret. For our own protection they'll say. Following agency protocol, they'll say. Why does a govt ID badge make it okay to stalk,grope,feel up, assault, rifle though ones belongings,take nude pictures of, etc. No one would accept such intrusions from another individual or a private security firm and rightly so. Insult to injury is that we are all forced to pay the salaries of said perpetrators whether we fly or not.
I feel the best way to deal with this criminality is the least convenient or even possible and that is for people to stop flying en masse. But too many have been conditioned to accept the abuses and too many are entrenched in yet another govt jobs program to go back now.
Threads about Manafort, Mueller, Stormy, etc. have 25-30 pages of posts. Threads about real issues will have 2-3. Let's see if this one is any different.

Stockholm Syndrome is a real thing.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Where can I sign up for this free police protection?
You sign up for it every April 15 when the government steals your money.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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Blame this on the left.

Because of the racial profiling nonsense we have to waste time with white women and let the Islamists walk on through
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Colossal waste of money and time which would be better spent having an Israeli type of profiling and screening process.
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Where can I sign up for this free police protection?
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Blame this on the left.

Because of the racial profiling nonsense we have to waste time with white women and let the Islamists walk on through
0-3 from the conservatives.

Let's get some lib input and see them swing and miss too.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:47 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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That still involves the State. A far better solution is to let the individual airlines determine which security process(es) they wish to use, and let the market decide which airlines customers trust to keep them safe.
How does that style of market determination work out for people on the ground minding their own business who may be subjected to hijacking attacks?

I personally won't fly unless I absolutely have to because of these types of things, BUT as a person on the ground, I'm perfectly ok with them. Anyone who chooses to fly is signing on to acceptance of such measures. Walking around on the ground, I can't "spend" my way into influencing security measures that airlines would slack on, putting us at risk below.
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