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1. In real capitalism all capital could be privately owned but that doesn't constitute power as the conditions aren't static...which you completely ignored. Even under Statism we see land values fluctuate greatly depending on various factors. In a truly free society it would be impossible to non-violently control these factors. If I don't want someone to have X amount of capital I have to non-violently stop him through whatever means I have in that non-violent tool box.
2. More of the same. The common denominators in Catalonia and Ukraine (I did read a little since we last debated and what I expected to find...I found) were militias using violence to subdue the dissidents. I have no love for Statism but if freedom were to ever break out I wouldn't call for or commit violence against current statists. Chris Cantwell, a former AnCap who went nuts (more nuts than usual for us AnCaps ) called for people to go out and kill cops because they were Statists carrying out the State's agenda...thus NAP violators. That's not how it works. Mens rea and Actus rea still apply. The militias basically wanted to wipe the slate clean and say "ok, our principles start...NOW!" and thought that was how to do it. It was Statism of a different flavor. We see it daily on this board with Team Red and Team Blue. Get power and do our bidding no matter if the tactics are against are so-called principles. Just as long as our side gets its agenda passed.
1. I’m too tired right now to type for too lobe right now, but as capital is accumulated, control of labor is fixed so production can be maximized. Even in the case of competition, capitalist owners have more incentive to please the costumer (or appear to do so) than the worker so often it’s a race to the bottom. And being as there would be no state, production in a certain sector will eventually oust smaller competitors due to exclusive control of supply chains that smaller businesses don’t have access to. Even in the case of innovation, the periodical appearances of these major changes allow for a few new competitors who quickly fall into the same old system
2. Of course I’m against violent revolution that tries to tear everything and anyone down. But in these cases you can’t forget the geopolitics and time period they happened in. Most of these systems are suggested in peace time but the authorities quickly shut them down. During war, when state influence is weakest, some people try to implement a free society, and being surrounded by war and death, other factions arise to practice the same warmongering of others. Even in northern Italy where the workers unionized, the ones who opposed the Nazis (a system that was dismantled by the allies) had guerilla fighters fighting the Nazis.
Again, I don’t condone these acts, but when I show them as an example, I speak of where they worked, not of the crimes of militant groups that would arise. Even the Zapatistas, who tried to form independent unions in indigenous areas, had militias fighting the government who was trying to destroy them.
None of this is the way to go, but these examples only became true due to war (Franco-Prussian war for the Paris communes) and also suffered the geopolitical consequences of being created in war. Modern anarcho-syndicalist prefer direct action through labor unions or what not, rather than offensive military revolution, but there was a reason these examples didn’t arise in peaceful times when the thought of militias abusing others would be unthinkable.
His immigration policies, tax payer-funded universal healthcare coverage and secondary/college.
I don't really know what all of Bernie's specific policies are but being he's a socialist which I'm not keen with and don't believe it could work in America which is too diverse and has too much immigration. Which leads to what I dislike most is Bernie not wanting to reduce legal and illegal immigration and he makes social justice and identity politics comments that are a non-starter for me.
Lol....you don't know what his policies are, you just know you don't like them. Lol
We have public colleges. My objection to funding everyone's college is if it doesn't increase costs, it'll still decrease it's value to about where a high school diploma is. I have similar objections to universal healthcare.
UHC would decrease the value of health care?
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I don't mind per se if you make all healthcare and education not for profit, but when the government runs anything you get unaccountability to the end customer and PC rules and politicization. I despise PC.
I don't think European or East Asian welfare programs are sustainable in America with scarcely a European majority and dropping and open borders. Americas population demographics are increasingly becoming more like a latin American country.
And Bernie's and any other socialist identity group and social justice comments make them dead to me.
The upper class and ownership class have everything rigged in their favor and I'm for certain polices similar to ones Trump proposes to even plying field some for the working and middle class.
I will give you credit for being greatly lacking in specifics.
“We know that the median salary for Amazon employees is about $28,000,” the Senator told TechCrunch. “And about half the workers who work for Amazon make less than $28,000 a year.”
Seems like the median for Amazon falls within and above the national average. So much like our goofy POTUS, it seems like goofy Bernie just has a problem with Mr. Bezos and Amazon. Not surprising from Bernie though with his animosity for those who are successful. Would he go after some individual owner of a small warehouse paying these same wages? Nope, and why not? Because that person isn't rich and successful. Seems that Bernies true motive is to punish the successful owners, he is way too transparent about this.
Glass door has salary data for almost 10K warehouse workers across the country and their overall average shows $32K per year, and if you tinker with the filters you can see that the national average for RETAIL warehouses with 5K or more employees ranges from $24K if you have 0-1 year experience and goes up to $30K with 15+ years experience.
Again, besides personal hate for those who are successful, what exactly is Bernie's issue with the more than fair average of $28K per year that Amazon workers are making?
How much money do people expect for taking something a robot fetches and putting it in an inappropriately sized box?
Lol! In all fairness, they have finally switched to some plastic bubble lined envelopes to fix this situation in many instances. I do however remember getting a tube of chapstick delivered in something the size of a shoe box. It was part of a larger order, so ridiculous.
Seems like the median for Amazon falls within and above the national average. So much like our goofy POTUS, it seems like goofy Bernie just has a problem with Mr. Bezos and Amazon. Not surprising from Bernie though with his animosity for those who are successful. Would he go after some individual owner of a small warehouse paying these same wages? Nope, and why not? Because that person isn't rich and successful. Seems that Bernies true motive is to punish the successful owners, he is way too transparent about this.
Glass door has salary data for almost 10K warehouse workers across the country and their overall average shows $32K per year, and if you tinker with the filters you can see that the national average for RETAIL warehouses with 5K or more employees ranges from $24K if you have 0-1 year experience and goes up to $30K with 15+ years experience.
Again, besides personal hate for those who are successful, what exactly is Bernie's issue with the more than fair average of $28K per year that Amazon workers are making?
Bernie is not a socialist, if he were, he’d want production to be self controlled rather than compensated for by capital ownership.
As for your claim that Bezos succeeded in anything, you are wrong. He used capital ownership to control production and pay the amount that would maximize production at the lowest risk. And if you read the article, you’d see that the main complaint was how strictly labor was managed/controlled.
Bernie is not a socialist, if he were, he’d want production to be self controlled rather than compensated for by capital ownership.
As for your claim that Bezos succeeded in anything, you are wrong. He used capital ownership to control production and pay the amount that would maximize production at the lowest risk. And if you read the article, you’d see that the main complaint was how strictly labor was managed/controlled.
Lol, yeah Bezos is a complete failure, hes not succeeded in anything.
Lol, yeah Bezos is a complete failure, hes not succeeded in anything.
Oh he’s successful, successfully at managing other people’s money and labor into his own pocket.
It doesn’t take much work as our system supports these actions rather than defend against them.
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) called for people to go out and kill cops because they were Statists carrying out the State's agenda...thus NAP violators. That's not how it works. Mens rea and Actus rea still apply. The militias basically wanted to wipe the slate clean and say "ok, our principles start...NOW!" and thought that was how to do it. It was Statism of a different flavor. We see it daily on this board with Team Red and Team Blue. Get power and do our bidding no matter if the tactics are against are so-called principles. Just as long as our side gets its agenda passed.
