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Old 09-03-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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so anybody that didn't have "religious" moral principles that didn't go is a coward? are you splitting hairs.

I'm sure if Trump believed in the war and wanted to bomb poor peasants and burn villages from the sky he would have gone and be one of the biggest war hawk in adult life and brag about his medals and kills.......I'm sure you liberals would find any excuse to bash his service also.

again, you are judging Trump when he was in his 20's and millions of Americans at that age did the same thing....why do you give a pass to Ali and others and not to Trump? because of Politics?

Oh, maybe it's got something to do with the fact that Trump claims to know more about running wars and the military than the generals do. Or maybe it's got something to do with the disgusting, disrespectful way he treated a Gold Star father and a POW. Maybe it's got something to do with the fact that he played soldier in prep-school and thinks that puts him on the same level as those who served.

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Old 09-03-2018, 01:27 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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so anybody that didn't have "religious" moral principles that didn't go is a coward? are you splitting hairs.


I'm sure if Trump believed in the war and wanted to bomb poor peasants and burn villages from the sky he would have gone and be one of the biggest war hawk in adult life and brag about his medals and kills.......I'm sure you liberals would find any excuse to bash his service also.



again, you are judging Trump when he was in his 20's and millions of Americans at that age did the same thing....why do you give a pass to Ali and others and not to Trump? because of Politics?
In Trump's case he himself has stated that staying in New York and having unprotected sex with hookers and coke whores was his own personal Vietnam. And you like this guy?
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:36 PM
 
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so anybody that didn't have "religious" moral principles that didn't go is a coward? are you splitting hairs.


I'm sure if Trump believed in the war and wanted to bomb poor peasants and burn villages from the sky he would have gone and be one of the biggest war hawk in adult life and brag about his medals and kills.......I'm sure you liberals would find any excuse to bash his service also.



again, you are judging Trump when he was in his 20's and millions of Americans at that age did the same thing....why do you give a pass to Ali and others and not to Trump? because of Politics?
Trump said he had bone-spurs.

They do not disappear by themselves. He's never had surgery (that he admitted to).

He walks and golfs without a limp.

And, just like his tax returns, he never has offered proof that he actually had bone-spurs.

Draw your own conclusions, but try and use Occam's Razor while doing so.
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Trump said he had bone-spurs.

They do not disappear by themselves. He's never had surgery (that he admitted to).

He walks and golfs without a limp.

And, just like his tax returns, he never has offered proof that he actually had bone-spurs.

Draw your own conclusions, but try and use Occam's Razor while doing so.
If I was forced to go to Vietnam, I'd fake injuries as well.
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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If I was forced to go to Vietnam, I'd fake injuries as well.
And conservatives would consider you a traitor unless you ran for President as a conservative which in that case it would be ok.
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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Oh, maybe it's got something to do with the fact that Trump claims to know more about running wars and the military than the generals do. Or maybe it's got something to do with the disgusting, disrespectful way he treated a Gold Star father and a WOW. Maybe it's got something to do with the fact that he played soldier in prep-school and thinks that puts him on the same level as those who served.



bull$hiat!!...that Goldstar father decided to be in the political arena and be used by the Clinton campaign to bash Trump on national tv in the Democrat convention and push for Hillary.......let me get this straight, that father can bash Trump and be political and campaign for Hillary Clinton and Trump can't defend himself because he is a Gold Star Father?




reminds me of the wives of the 9/11 victims when they got political and pushed a political agenda and supported and campaigned for John Kerry for President.....nobody could challenge them because that would be going after their dead husbands and attacking their grief.....what a joke!







so far Trump isn't a warmonger President starting WW 3 or wanting endless military interventions like John Mccain or Hillary Clinton...on that front, Trump is a better leader than Crazy Mccain......you know how many countries Mccain wanted military intervention? 15 from the top of my head, I can find more if I research. If Trump was that type of war monger and blood thirsty for wars you all be crucifying him.
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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And conservatives would consider you a traitor unless you ran for President as a conservative which in that case it would be ok.



you speak for all conservatives now? if conservatives all think that way, Jeb Bush would have won the GOP nomination instead of Trump.


the Bush doctrine and Mccain era are over.....Trump put a dagger to that.
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:51 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Those uniforms don't make a man honorable, there actions do.

You don't need the state to sanction who is good and who is bad, more so, a person in a navy uniform or any other military type wear can be a horrible person underneath. These surface level appearances don't prove anything.
^^^Exactly.
Timothy McVeigh was a decorated Gulf War vet. Guess the lefties must think he had been "raised right" and a "straight arrow".
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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And conservatives would consider you a traitor unless you ran for President as a conservative which in that case it would be ok.
Bill Clinton is a traitor?
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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Trump said he had bone-spurs.

They do not disappear by themselves. He's never had surgery (that he admitted to).

He walks and golfs without a limp.

And, just like his tax returns, he never has offered proof that he actually had bone-spurs.

Draw your own conclusions, but try and use Occam's Razor while doing so.
FYI- I had bone spurs both feet in late 1990's. Extremely painful for months. They went away. They came back a few years later, then went away. No problem past 15 years.
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