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Yes.....even if it began as a trumped up accusation of "Russians collusion" and ...
Your willingness to deceive yourself does not change the facts.
No other campaign (16 other Republican and five Democratic, one Green party, the Libertarian and the McMullen campaign) had contacts with the Russians, not one of them.
The Trump campaign had what seems to have been dozens well documented. Trump even dismissed Lewandowski to make room for Manafort and Gates, two operatives who made a decades long specialty of working with pro-Russian politicians in another country (Ukraine), concurrently these meetings in Trump tower occurred and directly after that the hacking started and Trump changed the Republican platform, removing the popular Republican call on arming Ukraine for it's defense from Russia.
This is an amazing series of events that absolutely must be investigated, for the facts and to determine the motives, yet Trump fires the man looking into it and admits he did it to shut down the investigation. He further tries to shut down any subsequent investigations, not interested in getting to the bottom of this scandal.
And all you can say here is "a trumped up accusation ...". You people and that con man in the white house are all disgusting.
^^^This, a thousand times this. I just responded similarly to another poster in another thread. Why are Trump's fans so unable to praise or support him without injecting Obama and/or Hillary into the conversation?
Is it that Trump has not done enough praiseworthy to stand on his own without illogical comparisons being continually made??
It could be because they know they've been suckered and they can't deal with it. They thought they were smart.
Check the facts for yourself, Bob. I never intended for you to believe anything I said.
Check the first two items and get back to us, unless you're chicken.
Not up to me to do your research for your claim .
Besides, did you miss where I said I would hope at least some credit for the economy should come from Obama doubling the debt from every administration before him?
Truth is that the economy goes up and down in cycles that often have little to do with a president's policies.
Doesn't mean that a president can't have an effect on it....just that it's probably not as much as either side claims when blaming the other side for bad times or taking credit for good times.
Your willingness to deceive yourself does not change the facts.
No other campaign (16 other Republican and five Democratic, one Green party, the Libertarian and the McMullen campaign) had contacts with the Russians, not one of them.
The Trump campaign had what seems to have been dozens well documented. Trump even dismissed Lewandowski to make room for Manafort and Gates, two operatives who made a decades long specialty of working with pro-Russian politicians in another country (Ukraine), concurrently these meetings in Trump tower occurred and directly after that the hacking started and Trump changed the Republican platform, removing the popular Republican call on arming Ukraine for it's defense from Russia.
This is an amazing series of events that absolutely must be investigated, for the facts and to determine the motives, yet Trump fires the man looking into it and admits he did it to shut down the investigation. He further tries to shut down any subsequent investigations, not interested in getting to the bottom of this scandal.
And all you can say here is "a trumped up accusation ...". You people and that con man in the white house are all disgusting.
Apparently you missed that the DNC paid for the Steele dossier that was used to gain the FISA warrant and begin the investigation in the first place.....
If he is guilty of a crime, fine. If not, then stop and grow up move forward.
The lefties, socialists, communists, and Marxist are causing this division in our country. Its not Liberal thinkers, as there are many that are good people with good intent.
The right has their wicked people too.
But, in all honesty, at what cost are we willing as a Nation to live with to get rid of Trump? Really, the lefties hate trump with such a passion, they are digging up any and everything with all their power, money, etc etc.
What is their ultimate goal, and will it be worth it.
Whether "It's worth it" will be determined later. If impeachment happens or not. That's a thing that only becomes evident after a long time has passed and all the emotions have gone cold. The Johnson impeachment needed 50 years to cool down.
But to be successful, an impeachment would require overwhelming support by the public along with as much Congressional support and agreement, in both sides.
It could always happen otherwise, but from the two instances in the past show, an impeachment is much more likely to fail than succeed. And if the possibility of failure isn't carefully planned for, it can destroy the party that brings it on.
That possibility is what is putting the issue of impeachment on the back burners of Congress right now. It's far too hot a subject to address when an election is only a few months away, so it's unlikely anything will be brought until the election is over.
There's a short time frame following the election where the lame ducks could impeach him, come hell or high water, as they wouldn't have anything to lose, but Trump would need to be even more unpopular by then than he is now, and I think that's unlikely.
I also don't think there are enough spoilers in either party would care so little for their party as to make it happen. A politician may lose, but if he exits well and gracefully, there's always a chance for his return some day. Burning bridges behind him eliminates those chances.
For crying out loud, that train has already left the station.
Republicans worked for years to impeach Clinton over a questionable real estate deal. Finally, ended up with catching him in a lie about a consensual blow job.
Campaign finance violations is not all that is going on here. Not by a long shot.
actually, Clinton did more than that.....he as President told others to lie under oath and to investigators in a court case......that's call obstruction of justice.
what's going here? is not "colluding" with Russia....is not campaign finance violation......what is it? please tell us the case with EVIDENCE.
If you're of the opinion that America > tRump, then it's clearly worth it and the sooner, the better.
But it's a tricky proposition.
Removing a president, even an obvious criminal, should never be undertaken w/o overwhelming evidence that leaves no doubt as to the outcome. A lesson the Pubs learned the hard way 20 years ago with their failed attempt vs Bill Clinton.
But tRump is a whole different level of corruption and criminality; orders of magnitude beyond anything Billy-boy was accused of. Mueller, the FBI and the DOJ have to make certain that they present an airtight case. And that's exactly what's happening, I'm sure.
In the meantime, enjoy the political/legal drama. This is history. Don't ignore it because you'll never see anything like it again.
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Will It be worth it? Impeaching Trump?
