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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 63 13.55%
58-60 32 6.88%
55-57 61 13.12%
50-54 198 42.58%
49 or less 111 23.87%
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Old 09-29-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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Why cant we see Ford's yearbook?
Probably because Ford is not applying to be a Supreme Court Justice.

 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I understand a lot of people will be asked questions. In fact those who are being questioned are talking about it to the media.

Kavanagh is lying about his past. You have to wonder what else he is lying about.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:28 PM
 
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I have no reason to assume, without the facts before me, that she wasn't attacked. Most people, on both sides of the aisle, don't question that. And it's always the woman who is never believed, never the man.
Do you not see the problem here? Do you really want to live in a world, where we abandon our due process system and the burden of proof is on the accused in these cases? Should it only apply to cases where someone is accused of sexual assault?

Should we also apply it to other accusations? Let's say, someone accuses you of theft, but there are no witnesses and there is zero proof, should you be hauled in and should the accuser be believed?
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Because, I remember both incidents clearly and I remember that Democrats, not only the politicians, but most of the rank and file behaved as if those incidents didn't matter. If you were outraged, great, I am glad you were. I was a liberal Democrat back then btw, and I know exactly how most of my fellow Democrats felt about it. They were more than willing to just pretend the incidents didn't happen.
As did Republicans with the conservative Republicans who got caught waving their Johnsons in bathrooms like they were George Michaels. There were quite a few of these a decade ago. Then you also had that Florida Republican who was Weiner before Weiner... To act like Democrats are the only ones to have sex scandals that are either swept under the rug or ends their political careers is partisan/
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:30 PM
 
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Probably because Ford is not applying to be a Supreme Court Justice.
Maybe, but why hasn't it been seen? In todays day and age, one can find practically anything on the internet.

Hmmn, couldn't be that there may be information there that would damage Ford's credibility, could there be?
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:30 PM
 
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As did Republicans with the conservative Republicans who got caught waving their Johnsons in bathrooms like they were George Michaels. There were quite a few of these a decade ago. Then you also had that Florida Republican who was Weiner before Weiner... To act like Democrats are the only ones to have sex scandals that are either swept under the rug or ends their political careers is partisan/
Links?
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:30 PM
 
Location: California
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Yeah, "good for America": like opening up national parks to foreign extraction and logging companies. Teddy Roosevelt is turning in his grave. If you actually loved America--the actual America, its wild lands and rivers and lakes and wildlife--you would be outraged by Trump's betrayal of it. But none of Trump's followers can ever criticize him. Ever. They are willing to give up to foreigners their very country if Trump says it's okay. Appalling.

As for your mockery of Feinstein and Ford, the ramblings about ICE, and anti-gun and anti-military: those are just right-wing talking points that you are obediently parroting. Because it's clear as day that you have no idea what you're talking about, in terms of reality.
Bet you’re a real joy at a dinner party. You’ve posted about a 1000 times and are constantly on a personal attack. I think perhaps you’ve had too much reality. Give it a rest.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Do you not see the problem here? Do you really want to live in a world, where we abandon our due process system and the burden of proof is on the accused in these cases? Should it only apply to cases where someone is accused of sexual assault?

Should we also apply it to other accusations? Let's say, someone accuses you of theft, but there are no witnesses and there is zero proof, should you be hauled in and should the accuser be believed?
The problem comes to who you believe.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:31 PM
 
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Do you not see the problem here? Do you really want to live in a world, where we abandon our due process system and the burden of proof is on the accused in these cases? Should it only apply to cases where someone is accused of sexual assault?

Should we also apply it to other accusations? Let's say, someone accuses you of theft, but there are no witnesses and there is zero proof, should you be hauled in and should the accuser be believed?
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Yes, that is exactly the world the left wants to live in. But, one caveat, that only applies to people who don't believe what they do.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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The problem comes to who you believe.
That isn't how our system works. If someone accuses you of harassment, without any proof, do you think they should be believed? There must be evidence, whether physical or witness accounts.

Do we really want to open this Pandora's Box?
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