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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 63 13.55%
58-60 32 6.88%
55-57 61 13.12%
50-54 198 42.58%
49 or less 111 23.87%
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Old 09-29-2018, 09:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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You do realize that the selection of a Supreme Court Justice by the Senate is not a legal proceeding? It is in essence a job interview along the lines of any other job interview but on a much higher scale. Kavanaugh is not being judged or tried in a courtroom on a charge of having broken a specific crime.

 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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That isn't how our system works. If someone accuses you of harassment, without any proof, do you think they should be believed? There must be evidence, whether physical or witness accounts.

Do we really want to open this Pandora's Box?
You know and I know that that is the legal system but the court of public opinion isn't as cut and dry. The court of public opinion is far more like the civil courts rather than the criminal courts. No reasonable doubt needed.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:45 PM
 
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No, the problem is the Democrats are encouraging people to believe in the concept of assumption of guilt versus assumption of innocence. Let this sink in. Representatives of our government, people who have sworn to uphold our Constitution, are actively encouraging people to believe its okay to destroy a person’s life based on an accusation which has no corroborating evidence and in fact, no evidence at all. All in the name of politics. THAT is the problem.


Precisely!
The "Democrats" do not think it is okay to destroy a person's life based on an accusation without evidence. Which is exactly why they called for an FBI investigation--an FBI investigation unconstrained by White House attempts to control their access to witnesses. The fact that the White House is forbidding the FBI to do its job is "the problem."
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:45 PM
 
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The problem comes to who you believe.
Feinstein didn’t believe ford as she did nothing about the allegations made in ford’s letter. Yet, for some reason Feinstein et al referred ford to attorneys/s.

This whole thing could have been investigated in August without ford coming out in public.

This is a total political hit job on Kavanaugh.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:46 PM
 
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But a majority of them have to be considered under that umbrella if they keep re-electing them. They are all on the left, some farther than others, but they are on the left just the same.
No, they are not "all on the left." If they were, Sanders would have been the candidate of choice. But the liberals won, and Clinton became the candidate.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:47 PM
 
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Feinstein didn’t believe ford as she did nothing about the allegations made in ford’s letter. Yet, for some reason Feinstein et al referred ford to attorneys/s.

This whole thing could have been investigated in August without ford coming out in public.

This is a total political hit job on Kavanaugh.
Absurd. This kind of political paranoia is beyond the pale. Thanks to Trump and FOX.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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Absurd. This kind of political paranoia is beyond the pale. Thanks to Trump and FOX.
Trump the grifter saw the opportunity to capitalize on paranoia and conspiracy theory loons. His birther bull-**** was the focus group that turned into a movement and Trump ran with the ball. So sad that such an idiot can con so many.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:54 PM
 
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You do realize that the selection of a Supreme Court Justice by the Senate is not a legal proceeding? It is in essence a job interview along the lines of any other job interview but on a much higher scale. Kavanaugh is not being judged or tried in a courtroom on a charge of having broken a specific crime.
Hes being tried on social media and in the press. Far more damaging.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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Of course she was going to "let this go," since she agreed to confidentiality. Just like it works in law enforcement. If someone (man or woman) is sexually assaulted, it's up to them whether to move forward with pressing charges; the police cannot do so in spite of their wishes.
Why did ford obtain counsel by August 7, referred from Feinstein & Co.?

Feinstein could have had this investigated and retained fords anonymity.

What was the point point of making the allegatoin and insisting on confidentiality. ford, Feinstein, and Katzwere going to let this all go but for the leak?

So it comes down to a woman making an allegatoin of attempted rape against a sitting federal judge on his way to a Supreme Court seat insisting on anonymity? It doesn’t and can’t work that way.

Makes no sense. Why bother making the allegation at all?

Btw, why doesn’t Ford just file a criminal complaint against Kavanaugh in Montgomery county MD? Statute of limitations doesn’t expire there on these allegations.

This whole thing smells bad. It’s a disgrace.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 09:56 PM
 
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Probably because Ford is not applying to be a Supreme Court Justice.
No, but she is attempting to ruin a persons life. Her morals and credibility are at least as important as his. More so to any clear thinking adult.
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