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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 63 13.55%
58-60 32 6.88%
55-57 61 13.12%
50-54 198 42.58%
49 or less 111 23.87%
Voters: 465. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-27-2018, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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LOL now they're wanting to stop this and do an FBI investigation. "Make her shut up - get her off the stage!"

 
Old 09-27-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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Now comes the so-called 'mainstream media' to spin it in her favor. Entertainers pretending to be reporters now saying, "It was heartbreaking to hear her say she remembers the laughter"

Sure, no bias at all.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Austin
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I find ford credible, but her credibility doesn't negate no corroboration for her accusations, including Ms. Keyser whom Ford said was also at the party who denies remembering it.

This is what Keyser has said under penalty of felony:

“Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford.”

so assuming there is no perry mason moment, will accusations alone be enough to sink Kavanaugh confirmation? we will see. If accusations are enough to sink a man's career, I fear for all men who could be similarly accused of sexual assault with no proof. It is a scary precedent to set for those of us who have sons, husbands, brothers, and male friends.

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Old 09-27-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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And you dont?
No, I don't think she is stupid and I don't think she is lying. I think her memory may be a bit fuzzy. So far she sounds credible to me.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 09:30 AM
 
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So far, absolutely zero evidence given.

Very easy for anyone to come forward with an unsubstantiated claim.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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What a complete load of ***** this is.

“I struggled academically after this incident ”. Sure you did. A bachelors 2 masters and a PH

Innocent until proven guilty does not exist in “me too America” anymore
Well, these are privileged people are around.

"You know, the Safeway on the corner of..."

Actually, no, we don't know. Most of us were not born and raised in and around the beltway.

Ditto for Kavanaugh. This argument is taking place inside castle walls. Doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 09:30 AM
 
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You don't know how those investigations go, do you? All they ask the people you put down is to name other people to talk to. They talk to neighbors, old teachers, whatever, but the point is they talk to people, purposely I might add, that you didn't list. Worked Intel back in my military days and trust me, if you have a secret you're hiding, they are going to find it in your clearance background investigation.
And Kavanaugh’s first background check was in 1993, much closer to this time period when memories are still fresh.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Originally Posted by KathrynAragon View Post
She has suffered "PTSD" type symptoms???????? OMG. My son spent 20 months in Iraq in an infantry unit in the "triangle of death" and lost several fellow soldiers and was also injured (thankfully slightly) in an IED attack. HE had PTSD. He also got counseling and has successfully moved forward.



First off your son has my utmost respect for serving our country and I happy to hear he is doing well now. Counseling is key as your son has learned.

Second, PTSD is not relegated to soldiers coming home from war. They get the most attention and it is probably the most severe form of it but any type of victim of violence, sexual assault or bullying can usually have some form of it. Whether Dr. Ford has it or not has yet to be determined. That is why she is testifying.
I know about PTSD. I was raped when I was a teenager. I went to counseling. I got over my PTSD.

I was also in a serious wreck when I was a teenager and for years afterward I experienced "PTSD symptoms" though I never got any counseling for that. I also got over that as well.

I was just putting some perspective on things. Clearly there are levels of PTSD. And clearly there are people who are more fragile than others.

But on one hand she's shaking and "nearly crying" (but with no tears) and then immediately afterwards she's laughing, fixing coffee (with not a tremble), etc. Come on.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 09:31 AM
 
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She said there was another girl there. I wanted the prosecutor to ask her how come she just left the other girl there with the sexual predators.
because she would have to name her....and one more witness would say she lying
 
Old 09-27-2018, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I'm looking for contrived stuff.

The "pale," "looked ill," stuff doesn't work for me. Contrived. Do believe she saw him. Do believe he was uncomfortable.
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