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Old 08-26-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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Something that proves the laws on the books actually prohibit "freedom of speech" to any greater degree than your hate crime law permitting teens going to jail for months for comments while NOT posing an "imminent threat" would be nice.

Something showing things like this happening in Canada would be helpful to your foolish opinion.:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-juli-briskman
The law on your boom is not an opinion.

Do you deny your laws prohibiting the freedom of speech?

 
Old 08-26-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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Did you misunderstand my post? My comment about terrible wait times was sarcasm....There really are no wait times here except for elective surgery. I have always been treated immediately for every medical emergency, and promptly for other issues, and believe me at 78 there have been issues.
I did misunderstand. Sorry
 
Old 08-26-2018, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I wonder if the USA MRI's are better than the Canadian ones? Up here in the Great White North they give me claustrophobia when I had to have them.

Wadda think?
I don't think they are any different....The MRI I experienced in July was a brand new state of the art machine....By the way I am, and have always been Canadian.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 08:34 PM
 
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The law on your boom is not an opinion.

Do you deny your laws prohibiting the freedom of speech?

I deny your opinion Canada has no freedom of speech.

Teens going to jail for months for sarcasm posted on a gamer site has not happened in Canada. Getting fired from your job for expressing your opinion by flipping the bird at a motorcade would not happen in Canada.

Your SCOTUS opinion of what constitutes "fighting words" is almost word for word identical.

Give this nonsense a rest now. You're boring the chit out of me.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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My husband had a serious cycling accident (through no fault of his) a month ago. He's lost the use of one arm and there is no way we know if it will come back. That stress combined with the physical pain and toll on his body is enough, we now are looking at years of extra medical costs that will significantly impact our quality of life. In Canada -- he would have gotten the same care, and that financial burden would not have been a factor. I can't tell you how different it is. And yes the care is just as good...depending on where you live. Sure there are specialists in the USA that might be able to give my husband better care but they aren't in our insurance or they are way over and above what the insurance will pay. We can't afford that as we approach retirement.

There is a lot of rancor in this thread but I wanted to wish your the best for a speedy and full recovery.


I also agree that a basic healthcare for all will be useful but how to ration it so that it does not bankrupt the country is a tricky thing. People here want everything but don't want to pay for it.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 08:55 PM
 
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Oh, I knew you were Canadian, as am I. I was being sarcastic as hell. My girlfriend, a nurse, lives in Florida, and is a case manager with a large insurance company. I truly have seen the good, bad and ugly from their system, and she hates it.

One would think that she has a gold plated health insurance plan, but even with that, she still has a $5,000 yearly deductible and a 20% copay. This past spring she got a glass sliver in her foot, and it ended up costing her $1,100 to get it removed!!!!

Imagine that happening in Canada? Not a chance.
Ouch!

Those of us who spend months of every ear in the U.S. and get the chance to see their system up close first hand, would cringe at the prospect of duplicating any of it in Canada. My retirement "out of Province" healthcare package has a disclaimer contained within it, should I require hospitalization while in the U.S. or Mexico, once stabilized and deemed fit to travel, they will pay for a med flight and EMT to get my azz home to Canada.

The third leading cause of PREVENTABLE death in the U.S. is medical error.

The mere privilege we take for granted of simply showing our health card and not once considering whether or not the fine print includes the cost of whatever it is we're getting treatment for is something that had they ever had just that one aspect of our system, even for just one year, they'd know far better than to talk smack about something they know nothing about and what the other first world countries have enjoyed for decades while they've foolishly listened to lies and drank the koolade.

I've lived among them for months at a time over quite a few years now and witnessed denial of authorization of cancer treatment delay the commencement of a treatment plan while the individual goes through the nightmare of re-submitting additional forms and being told to see another specialist, all the while dealing with the stress of the delay. It can be awful to witness.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 09:24 PM
 
Location: London
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Who cares about the military... all unnecessary
I agree. The US is already at an advantage by virtue of having geographical isolation by two vast oceans, only two neighboring countries (both friendly), and a highly armed populace.

All the US needs is to have enough military to protect its borders and to not pick fights like a roid-rager in a nightclub, and it'll be fine.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I agree. The US is already at an advantage by virtue of having geographical isolation by two vast oceans, only two neighboring countries (both friendly), and a highly armed populace.

All the US needs is to have enough military to protect its borders and to not pick fights like a roid-rager in a nightclub, and it'll be fine.
I agree.....The US government reminds me of the neighbor that constantly sticks their nose into other peoples business....They even do this to their own citizens....
 
Old 08-26-2018, 09:57 PM
 
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There is a lot of rancor in this thread but I wanted to wish your the best for a speedy and full recovery.


I also agree that a basic healthcare for all will be useful but how to ration it so that it does not bankrupt the country is a tricky thing. People here want everything but don't want to pay for it.



It seems that every other country that has universal healthcare have figured this out.
 
Old 08-26-2018, 10:03 PM
 
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Ouch!

Those of us who spend months of every ear in the U.S. and get the chance to see their system up close first hand, would cringe at the prospect of duplicating any of it in Canada. My retirement "out of Province" healthcare package has a disclaimer contained within it, should I require hospitalization while in the U.S. or Mexico, once stabilized and deemed fit to travel, they will pay for a med flight and EMT to get my azz home to Canada.

The third leading cause of PREVENTABLE death in the U.S. is medical error.

The mere privilege we take for granted of simply showing our health card and not once considering whether or not the fine print includes the cost of whatever it is we're getting treatment for is something that had they ever had just that one aspect of our system, even for just one year, they'd know far better than to talk smack about something they know nothing about and what the other first world countries have enjoyed for decades while they've foolishly listened to lies and drank the koolade.

I've lived among them for months at a time over quite a few years now and witnessed denial of authorization of cancer treatment delay the commencement of a treatment plan while the individual goes through the nightmare of re-submitting additional forms and being told to see another specialist, all the while dealing with the stress of the delay. It can be awful to witness.
Our experiences are similar. I spend 6 months at my condo in the Tampa Bay area. It is age restricted to 55+. What you describe is much of the concerns I hear from them, and they all, to a person, Republican or Democrat, envy the Canadian system.

On the other hand, I get my teeth taken care down there. Alberta is the highest price in Canada for dental care. Funny how that works. Friends of mine who prefer the Phoenix/Tucson area, go across the border to Mexico in Nogales, where it is just a fraction of the cost, and all of them, to a person, are very, very satisfied with the service, cost and results.
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