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Old 08-27-2018, 05:51 PM
 
Location: New Market, MD
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Is that your way of dismissing something when you're not capable of arguing sensibly?
Thank her for not adding

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Kitty is becoming master killer at least in her on mind
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Old 08-27-2018, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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You know its bad when the GOP puts out a note talking about all the things the house committees should be doing.

Then saying it will happen when the Dems. take back the house.


They know what their members should be doing but are not.
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Old 08-27-2018, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Born in L.A. - NYC is Second Home - Rustbelt is Home Base
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A while back, there was an article about rich people preparing for the expected demise of civilization:

Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich
Some of the wealthiest people in America are getting ready for the crackup of civilization

By Evan Osnos
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...the-super-rich

I was pondering something in the letters from readers:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-16-2017-issue

One person wrote: I was struck by the possibility that extreme wealth can damage one’s mental health just as poverty can. Many of the people he writes about seem to have grown hypersensitive to any loss of control; they pathologically fixate on absurd attempts to regulate the uncontrollable.

I was thinking ... this seems to be a trait of Republicans generally, doesn't it? Isn't part of the action against black people and immigrants a fight against losing control, possibly having to share the country? Isn't the frequent complaint from Republicans their rant against anything that provides help - especially financial help - to anyone less fortunate? Isn't that why Republicans have said they'd like to eliminate Democrats completely (and are gerrymandering to make it happen)? Isn't that what's behind Trump's bullying intent to be the unquestioned top dog himself her, and America to be the unquestioned top dog globally? Wonder if it all dates back to a childhood so wealthy that the concept of sharing was never mentioned. Is it, as the writer guesses, a mental health issue?
No, not all like you think. Sure we don't want America to become Mexico or Nigeria. Do you? If you are wishing for America to become Mexico or Nigeria, then you are racist and are working for the demise of white people. America was not built on the values of Yemen. Would you like Sharia law to rule America and for your family to be beheaded? We were not built on Chinese values. America was built on certain values and the conservatives wish to maintain those values. If the values go, so does America cease to be.
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Old 08-27-2018, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
A while back, there was an article about rich people preparing for the expected demise of civilization:

Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich
Some of the wealthiest people in America are getting ready for the crackup of civilization

By Evan Osnos
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...the-super-rich

I was pondering something in the letters from readers:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-16-2017-issue

One person wrote: I was struck by the possibility that extreme wealth can damage one’s mental health just as poverty can. Many of the people he writes about seem to have grown hypersensitive to any loss of control; they pathologically fixate on absurd attempts to regulate the uncontrollable.

I was thinking ... this seems to be a trait of Republicans generally, doesn't it? Isn't part of the action against black people and immigrants a fight against losing control, possibly having to share the country? Isn't the frequent complaint from Republicans their rant against anything that provides help - especially financial help - to anyone less fortunate? Isn't that why Republicans have said they'd like to eliminate Democrats completely (and are gerrymandering to make it happen)? Isn't that what's behind Trump's bullying intent to be the unquestioned top dog himself her, and America to be the unquestioned top dog globally? Wonder if it all dates back to a childhood so wealthy that the concept of sharing was never mentioned. Is it, as the writer guesses, a mental health issue?
Excellent topic for discussion. As a moderate descended from immigrants (as most of us are), with my most recent direct ancestor emigrating from Germany in 1923 -- and as someone who has worked myself from the working poor class to a comfortable middle class -- I think it is more a question of fairness more than of wanting to not share the wealth and a desire keep the underdogs down and/or out.

I can only speak for myself, of course, but what bothers me more than anything is immigrants being given so much help and often at the expense of citizens who were born here when most of our ancestors had no help whatsoever (except for family members and sometimes their communities) and who wanted to assimilate (for the most part) into the prevailing U.S. culture.

I don't resent on the basis of ancestry or of skin color, but just about how many people seem to expect the natives to kow-tow to recent immigrants, and so many immigrants seem to expect and demand this.

Again, this is just my opinion.

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Old 08-27-2018, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It will be interesting to see the investigations taken on by the democrats if they regain control of the house, not to mention letting the FBI focus more on corruption and domestic terrorism.
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Old 08-27-2018, 09:55 PM
 
Location: My House
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The article says "Élite anxiety cuts across political lines".

But the OP tries to link it to a single party.

Then they try to tack on a racial angle for good measure.

Yeah, I agree it wasn't incoherent but it was a fairly dishonest and shoddy political attack.
And to that I say...

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Old 08-27-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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Frightened of being exposed , yes.
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Old 08-27-2018, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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What are Dims, exactly? Is that some unclever way to say that liberal elites, presumably with their Ivy League educations are not intelligent people? Because that really does not compute in the slightest.

People who have higher levels of education understand more about the political process and the running of the government than people who are not particularly well educated.

So, which thing are the Democrats, exactly?

And, no... as I have to say often on here, I'm an unaffiliated voter.
The Dims were Nancy, Harry and then Obama that steered our economy into the ditch. Thankfully we elected Boehner and co. to bail us out and they came through.
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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I was just looking at the original article again, stuck by this:

Johnson said, “If we had a more equal distribution of income, and much more money and energy going into public school systems, parks and recreation, the arts, and health care, it could take an awful lot of sting out of society. We’ve largely dismantled those things.”

As public institutions deteriorate, élite anxiety has emerged as a gauge of our national predicament. “Why do people who are envied for being so powerful appear to be so afraid?” Johnson asked. “What does that really tell us about our system?”


It reminds me that supposedly at some earlier points (1930s?) the wealthy really panicked with the rising interest of socialism. There really does seem to be some awful ongoing fear of things being taken away from them, which I suppose manifests themselves with their melodramatic demonization of welfare.
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