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If Islamist's founded the USA "all Americans" including First Americans would be Muslims, just like in the Islamic Republics of the middle east Islam is increasing in this country, not Christianity. The Left using the Christian boogeyman arguement only works against them.
And there wouldn't be distinct Indian tribes or blacks as they would've killed, castrated and raped them all and blended them away. And America would be a third world backwater. All of North America would be like latin America but 10 times worse and similar to the middle east or worse.
Not just them. Indians are native to a separate pre-Columbian/Pre-colonial America. The religion of the natives of British/Colonial America turned US of America is Christianity.
Not quite that simple. They were Christians who persecuted and fought each other. Christians discriminated against other Christians who were not the 'right' kind of Christian. They've always discriminated against other religions, and even their own. They seem to have a need for everyone else to believe exactly as they do.
"....From the earliest arrival of Europeans on America’s shores, religion has often been a cudgel, used to discriminate, suppress and even kill the foreign, the “heretic” and the “unbeliever”—including the “heathen” natives already here.
...Moreover, while it is true that the vast majority of early-generation Americans were Christian, the pitched battles between various Protestant sects and, more explosively, between Protestants and Catholics, present an unavoidable contradiction to the widely held notion that America is a “Christian nation.”...
...The much-ballyhooed arrival of the Pilgrims and Puritans in New England in the early 1600s was indeed a response to persecution that these religious dissenters had experienced in England. But the Puritan fathers of the Massachusetts Bay Colony did not countenance tolerance of opposing religious views. Their “city upon a hill” was a theocracy that brooked no dissent, religious or political..."
I disagree America has American law
We don’t single out people like other countries do for taxes
We are fair to others of differing views
We are just
Take the high ground
That is all assuming they are not trying to kill us
If they are hostile invaders don’t tax them deport them
Not quite that simple. They were Christians who persecuted and fought each other. Christians discriminated against other Christians who were not the 'right' kind of Christian. They've always discriminated against other religions, and even their own. They seem to have a need for everyone else to believe exactly as they do.
"....From the earliest arrival of Europeans on America’s shores, religion has often been a cudgel, used to discriminate, suppress and even kill the foreign, the “heretic” and the “unbeliever”—including the “heathen” natives already here.
...Moreover, while it is true that the vast majority of early-generation Americans were Christian, the pitched battles between various Protestant sects and, more explosively, between Protestants and Catholics, present an unavoidable contradiction to the widely held notion that America is a “Christian nation.”...
...The much-ballyhooed arrival of the Pilgrims and Puritans in New England in the early 1600s was indeed a response to persecution that these religious dissenters had experienced in England. But the Puritan fathers of the Massachusetts Bay Colony did not countenance tolerance of opposing religious views. Their “city upon a hill” was a theocracy that brooked no dissent, religious or political..."
I didn't say Christians always got along perfectly, but that America was founded by Protestants.
The fact that Christians haven't gotten along perfectly if anything shows the absurdity of expecting Christianity and Islam getting along.
Muslims certainly haven't gotten along with other muslims either or especially non-Muslims. Non religious people haven't always got along with each other and others either for that matter.
Why? Do you want a Christian form of Sharia Law? Besides, one could play this silly game with different laws all over the world. X does y this so the USA should do y. Not terribly productive...
Christians don’t have sharia... in fact Christian law means love your enemy, love your neighbor, turn the cheek, etc. and that’s considered evil for you?
Not quite that simple. They were Christians who persecuted and fought each other. Christians discriminated against other Christians who were not the 'right' kind of Christian. They've always discriminated against other religions, and even their own. They seem to have a need for everyone else to believe exactly as they do.
"....From the earliest arrival of Europeans on America’s shores, religion has often been a cudgel, used to discriminate, suppress and even kill the foreign, the “heretic” and the “unbeliever”—including the “heathen” natives already here.
...Moreover, while it is true that the vast majority of early-generation Americans were Christian, the pitched battles between various Protestant sects and, more explosively, between Protestants and Catholics, present an unavoidable contradiction to the widely held notion that America is a “Christian nation.”...
...The much-ballyhooed arrival of the Pilgrims and Puritans in New England in the early 1600s was indeed a response to persecution that these religious dissenters had experienced in England. But the Puritan fathers of the Massachusetts Bay Colony did not countenance tolerance of opposing religious views. Their “city upon a hill” was a theocracy that brooked no dissent, religious or political..."
Actually Christians and Americans in general have been very tolerant of other religions including the LDS, Amish, Jehovah's Witness, Seventh Day, Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists just to name a few. We've all shared America without much incident.
We draw the line however at cutting off our heads in the name of someone's god. We won't tolerate that, and our swords will be drawn against those who push against us. So should we all, but unfortunately excuses are made instead.
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Actually Christians and Americans in general have been very tolerant of other religions including the LDS, Amish, Jehovah's Witness, Seventh Day, Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists just to name a few. We've all shared America without much incident.
We draw the line however at cutting off our heads in the name of someone's god. We won't tolerate that, and our swords will be drawn against those who push against us. So should all, but unfortunately excuses are made instead.
Seriously? Those people killing, lynching and burning during the civil rights movement--no christians among those southerners? Your patronizing view of how 'tolerant' christians are is rather quaint, but certainly not true. American christians treat others the way they would like to be treated? Please--just more hypocrisy about the mythology of religion.
Christians don’t have sharia... in fact Christian law means love your enemy, love your neighbor, turn the cheek, etc. and that’s considered evil for you?
Oh, if only the CINOs who populate this board actually followed that doctrine. You don't find much "love your neighbor, turn the other cheek, whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers you do to me" kind of behavior here. Quite the opposite, in fact. It almost seems as though many "Christians" here never actually heard of Christ.
Christianity in theory is great. In practice, as I've witnessed here on this board, not so much.
Seriously? Those people killing, lynching and burning during the civil rights movement--no christians among those southerners? Your patronizing view of how 'tolerant' christians are is rather quaint, but certainly not true. American christians treat others the way they would like to be treated? Please--just more hypocrisy about the mythology of religion.
Well whatever they weren't acting in the name of Christianity. They were acting for reasons of politics. Many of them were Democrats, should we condemn all political parties? MLK claimed to be a Christian and even named after a most prominent Protestant.
Do you think that Muslims in America should pay jizya (tax that’s imposed on non-Muslims in Islamic nations under Islamic Sharia Law)? Since they impose that law on Christians and other non-Muslim residents in their own countries, I think Muslims in America and the West should also pay this extra tax. This will bring in nice revenue to the nation which could help pay for many things.
I think the world will be a much better place if EVERYBODY follows two simple rules:
a. When in Rome, do as the Romans do
b. leave other people alone.
No, they shouldn't pay extra taxes if they live legally in the U.S.
and
No, they shouldn't be given special treatments either.
ONE RULE FOR ALL, or NO rule at all.
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Islam is increasing in this country, not Christianity. The Left using the Christian boogeyman arguement only works against them.
