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Old 08-29-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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Fine with me. They can report the citizenship status of every killer if they want. As long as they don't decide to be selective about which murders they report.
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Old 08-29-2018, 10:06 PM
 
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Fine with me. They can report the citizenship status of every killer if they want. As long as they don't decide to be selective about which murders they report.
Being selective in reporting is what the media is all about.

They could strip the citizenship and deport native violent criminals for all I'd care as long as it's not done selectively . Britain use to have a transportation penalty in their criminal code where the sentence was removal of the convicted citizen from Britain to some far away colony. I'd actually prefer that if it was possible rather paying to house and keep criminals.
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Old 08-29-2018, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Japan
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But all crime is preventable. This guy in the link in the OP didn't have to drink and drive. He could have pulled over when the LEO hit the siren. Mollie Tibbet's murder has as much to do with a bad guy not taking no for an answer as it does his immigration status.
You illustrate the exact opposite point from the one you intend to make. The authorities had no means of preventing this person from drinking and driving. Preventing all instances of drunk driving would require a prohibition on alcohol, extreme restrictions on driver eligibility, and a massive police state to enforce it. By comparison, stopping illegals from killing people is a piece of cake. They just need to be deported and kept out.
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Old 08-29-2018, 10:39 PM
 
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You illustrate the exact opposite point from the one you intend to make. The authorities had no means of preventing this person from drinking and driving. Preventing all instances of drunk driving would require a prohibition on alcohol, extreme restrictions on driver eligibility, and a massive police state to enforce it. By comparison, stopping illegals from killing people is a piece of cake. They just need to be deported and kept out.
Exactly. All illegal alien crime is potentially preventable with deportation. But if you don't deport then virtually no illegal alien crime is preventable just like native crime isn't practically.

Liberals are saying just ignore immigration status. Well yeah under that precondition there's no real distinction left between illegal aliens and natives commiting crime.
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Old 08-29-2018, 11:11 PM
 
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But when you harp on the immigration status, you're placing that guy's victim over the victim of, for example, this guy. You don't see that.
No.

I'm pretty sure only you see that.

The issue isn't whether one criminal act is worse than another because an illegal committed it.

The issue is having a crime committed by someone that shouldn't be here to commit the crime.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:03 AM
 
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Because a foreign-born illegal alien who commits a crime in the US shouldn't be here to commit the crime, Duh.

Because we don't want open border to foreign criminals when we have our own to deal with, Duh.

Because even if the suspect is a foreign-born legal resident we don't have to have immigration, Duh.

Because if the suspect is not an illegal alien, but is a native born citizen there's no reason to mention his legal status and nationality as it's implied, Duh.
There is nothing about the citizenship of this guy or the jogger murderer that have anything to do with crimes committed. The jogger murderer wouldn't have been able to commit the crime if he didn't have a car (since he chased her down in it). By your logic, we shouldn't have cars.

Silly? Yes. You are drawing lines to prove a weak argument. In the very same way I drew a weak line between car ownership and murder.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:45 AM
 
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Old argument from the left, "American born individuals commit crimes too."

What a stupid argument. Of course they do. The point is, why add more crime? If the illegals weren't here, those crimes committed by them wouldn't have been committed.

The idiocy of people is astounding and the left is becoming more brain dead day by day.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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The dude was driving erratically when a LEO tried to stop him. The driver fled hitting speeds topping 100 mph before hitting another truck and killing that driver.

Not sure who or what the Minneapolis City Page is, but they did what the right wingers here do and reported on the immigration status of the man who was arrested.

I hate the young man died at the hands of a criminal. The criminals immigration status is irrelevant in this case and all cases.

U.S.-born American citizen in country legally charged in teen's death | City Pages
People who are killed by illegal immigrants have their blood on your hands because you and the rest of the left wingers are harboring them from removal.

How's that?
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Old 08-30-2018, 08:41 AM
 
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But all crime is preventable. This guy in the link in the OP didn't have to drink and drive. He could have pulled over when the LEO hit the siren. Mollie Tibbet's murder has as much to do with a bad guy not taking no for an answer as it does his immigration status.
No, not all crime is preventable by our current legal standards. We can't lock people up for thought crimes or because of what they might do but we can certainly deport illegal aliens because of what they have done. Nobody is saying his immigration status is why he killed Mollie, all we're saying is he had already committed crimes that he should have been held responsible for and if someone had done that he wouldn't have been in the country.
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Old 08-30-2018, 10:30 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What’s wrong with keeping illegals out AND hanging this guy high?
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