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Old 08-30-2018, 10:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What most don't realize is that our motivation was just to out do the Russians.
Just as most people don't realize it was all faked on a sound stage in Kansas someplace.

And for the same reason: Because the accusation wasn't true.
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Old 08-30-2018, 10:32 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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"Once ze rockets are up, who cares where zey come down? That's not my department!" says Werner von Braun.
While the V2 rocket was undergoing development during WWII, it had many difficult-to-solve problems, including steering, gyro guidance etc. Finally von Braun's team started solving them. During practice long-range launches, trying to hit an unmanned barge at sea a hundred miles away from the rocket's land base, sometimes the rocket would break up, veer many miles off course etc. Finally they put one of them within a few hundred yards of the barge, and there was much rejoicing.

People were congratulating von Braun at a post-launch party, and he remarked that the only thing wrong with that test was that the rocket had landed on the wrong planet. von Braun was a well-known advocate of future space travel, and saw that as the real goal of the research he was doing.

A member of the Gestapo overheard the remark, reported it, and von Braun was thrown in jail and interrogated mercilessly for weeks, by Gestapo agents who thought it meant he did not have Germany's victory in the war, as his first and only priority.

Yes, they threw Werner von Braun in jail!
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Old 08-30-2018, 10:33 PM
 
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Just as most people don't realize it was all faked on a sound stage in Kansas someplace.

And for the same reason: Because the accusation wasn't true.
you forgot the /s?

Sry had a few beers..
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Old 08-30-2018, 11:28 PM
 
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I might see his movie out of spite. Seriously, of all the historical American movies to pull their leftist agenda, Hollywood has to do the Moon landing!
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Old 08-30-2018, 11:39 PM
 
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In other words, revisionist history.
Nah, there was quite some debate on the point. The Committee on Symbolic Activities for the First Lunar Landing (not making that title up) also considered a UN flag or no flag at all - it ended up being enough of an afterthought that it had to be carried strapped to the egress ladder.

The plaque I posted upthread was originally intended to show a US flag, but was converted to its final design.

NASA was run by eggheads who wanted to do science and engineering, they were surprisingly tone-deaf at times.
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Old 08-30-2018, 11:41 PM
 
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Nah, there was quite some debate on the point. The Committee on Symbolic Activities for the First Lunar Landing (not making that title up) also considered a UN flag or no flag at all - it ended up being enough of an afterthought that it had to be carried strapped to the egress ladder.

The plaque I posted upthread was originally intended to show a US flag, but was converted to its final design.

NASA was run by eggheads who wanted to do science and engineering, they were surprisingly tone-deaf at times.
I think Scientists think bigger than being patriotic. Hence with the ISS, scientists did not care about the tension between Russia and the U.S., they just wanted to do science.
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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If they want to portray a diverse mission control I have no problem with that, but leaving out the American Flag is completely historically inaccurate.
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:05 AM
 
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WOW -- a movie none of you have seen has triggered those on the left and right.......

I'll wait to see if it is a noticeable omission or if the movie flows along without that flag planting.
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The trailers looked good and I planned to watch the movie but this disappointing.
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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The movie centered around three women. Do you honestly think those were the only three?
At the time, given American society sexism, racism, separation of races etc. You're really arguing that the US space program wasn't 99% white male? Ok, maybe it was 97.5% white male but whatever the number was it's going to be very very large when you're talking about any of the technical roles.

That being said, it's not a condemnation of ability or aptitude but that of opportunity.

One of the CORE themes of the movie you cited was that of lack of opportunity due to gender\race and of being an extreme minority out of a large group of white guys. (Her having to go for long hikes to the bathroom, the other mathroom being all white males, the gal that had to fight to get into engineering classes etc.)
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