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Old 09-03-2018, 07:24 AM
 
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Poor white won't stay in the containment with a cry of being left behind. They are facing the change of what has thrust them into cycles of trying to recreate the past, and they will become enlightened to seek the future, and realize that the past does not return in what is the future. The future is always in procession to make better improving forward from the frailty and fallacies and falsehoods of the past.
Facts are the truths that evolves, as does the awareness of man to the wrongs that must be made right by the change to move to honor the value that places and embrace respect for people with and abandonment of the inferiority that tried to promote itself as superiority; and become one who respect equality.
The awakening is a time to know the powers of unity in being equal with other mankind as human beings is what is Democracy. It will change in the churches and in the homes and the streets the mentality and tonality of human interactions... that comes to appreciate the full scope of what is Democracy for All.


The atonement of politics is underway, but it simply faces the brutal fights in this day and time, under this administration of trying to cling to a past... that is not to be the future.
Truths will prevail and Politics will be taken back by the people !!! to be for and about the people and this nation a the equals as human beings, and citizens which makes what Democracy is, to flourish. The hold out despair themselves, and those who embrace this change will flourish and prosper as never before in a 'Unified America", something which it has never been, but will become to be... Then we progress as a nation with equilibrium for All human potential and as citizen persons... as a nations that prospers together.

It's not a need of any New Parties, its a need to embrace the "Truths of Democracy" and that is the power of Political Discourse is to be returned to the people.

" More People "Read" Today, than Ever Before in History"

God's world does not move forward by pessimism, but by optimism..... Information and Knowledge is more available today, than has ever been available to the masses in the history of the world.

Information and Knowledge has always changed the world.... !!!!

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Old 09-03-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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The Reshaping of Politics in America is destined to become the movement as Trump is exposed and the damages he has done to the nation's concerns and interest, its departments, divisions and agencies.... will all become matters that no president ever in the future can have the power to cause so much damage to the nation.

Trump is like a remake of the Confederacy Attacking the United States from within and doing so with, by and through Treasonous acts aided and influenced by Russians and Russian Agenda, and a Rabid Republican Congress (which should be better referred to as "The Last Guard of the Confederacy".

Republican Congress has insulted the Institution of what is Congress and that too will go into overhaul. The nation cannot afford such malice minded conduct and actions.

What Trump has done to Global Trade will never be in the hands of the President to invoke such callous madness into the world arena.

Nor will the destruction of "diplomacy" ever be allowed to be insulted and denigrated in the ways Trump has done.

The insults and degradation he has tried to thrust upon the Intelligence Community and the Justice System, should have him given the highest penalty for Subversive Acts against the nation that are a form of Internal Treason Upon and Against the American Systems and their Departments.

"Technology" will continue to make way to uncover corruptions and criminal conduct by elected persons.

Trump will go down in history as a bigoted, race bias treasonous greed monger, a tax cheat, a draft dodger, a dis-respecter of American hero's and and insult-er of American Gold Star Families, and a Money Laundering Criminal, a low life dishonorable hustler, who squander tax payer dollars paying himself to stay at his properties on the public's dime. History will record him as the most vile and ignorant President of the 21st Century, as the man who damaged America and American society...

We will move to building upon the LBJ legacy, and expand every aspect of Civil Rights, and we will build upon the Social and Civic programming that LBJ set in motion more than 50+ yrs ago... and his signature program of "eradicating poverty" will become a centerpiece when Trump the Buffoon is removed from office.

The Evangelicals will have to rebuild on honorable God based principles rather than carry forth on their Confederate Idealism and Antebellum ideals of that system, of which they have built themselves to promote over many centuries. They are "exposed" in their malice and shown to be not of the moral fiber they once pretended to claim, which was based in the Antebellum Race/Class Divisiveness.

America will move forward and never allow such belligerent vile to be spewed on a daily basis from our Presidential Administration every again.

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Old 09-03-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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If you truly want to start a new party, hire more Russians... they really know how to stretch a dollar!
 
Old 09-03-2018, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Originally Posted by Chance and Change View Post
The Reshaping of Politics in America is destined to become the movement as Trump is exposed and the damages he has done to the nation's concerns and interest, its departments, divisions and agencies.... will all become matters that no president ever in the future can have the power to cause so much damage to the nation.

Trump is like a remake of the Confederacy Attacking the United States from within and doing so with, by and through Treasonous acts aided and influenced by Russians and Russian Agenda, and a Rabid Republican Congress (which should be better referred to as "The Last Guard of the Confederacy".

Republican Congress has insulted the Institution of what is Congress and that too will go into overhaul. The nation cannot afford such malice minded conduct and actions.

What Trump has done to Global Trade will never be in the hands of the President to invoke such callous madness into the world arena.

Nor will the destruction of "diplomacy" ever be allowed to be insulted and denigrated in the ways Trump has done.

The insults and degradation he has tried to thrust upon the Intelligence Community and the Justice System, should have him given the highest penalty for Subversive Acts against the nation that are a form of Internal Treason Upon and Against the American Systems and their Departments.

"Technology" will continue to make way to uncover corruptions and criminal conduct by elected persons.

Trump will go down in history as a bigoted, race bias treasonous greed monger, a tax cheat, a draft dodger, a dis-respecter of American hero's and and insult-er of American Gold Star Families, and a Money Laundering Criminal, a low life dishonorable hustler, who squander tax payer dollars paying himself to stay at his properties on the public's dime. History will record him as the most vile and ignorant President of the 21st Century, as the man who damaged America and American society...

We will move to building upon the LBJ legacy, and expand every aspect of Civil Rights, and we will build upon the Social and Civic programming that LBJ set in motion more than 50+ yrs ago... and his signature program of "eradicating poverty" will become a centerpiece when Trump the Buffoon is removed from office.

The Evangelicals will have to rebuild on honorable God based principles rather than carry forth on their Confederate Idealism and Antebellum ideals of that system, of which they have built themselves to promote over many centuries. They are "exposed" in their malice and shown to be not of the moral fiber they once pretended to claim, which was based in the Antebellum Race/Class Divisiveness.

America will move forward and never allow such belligerent vile to be spewed on a daily basis from our Presidential Administration every again.
You do realize that Trump is the direct result of the two party system, right?
 
Old 09-03-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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This right here are great logical steps. The debates are great public exposure to candidates ideas more so than media snippets etcetera. If the debate was hosted by a government agency instead of a random media organization that would be nice.
The current election system always makes only two parties viable in the long run though. You have to change how we elect representatives for more parties to be viable.
 
Old 09-03-2018, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Should we simply abolish the two party system we currently have and start fresh with new multiple political parties?
The 1st Amendment bars the abolition of any political parties.

Political parties are protected by the Free Speech clause of the 1st Amendment, the Free Press clause of the 1st Amendment, and the Freedom of Association clause of the 1st Amendment.

I would be wary of anyone who cannot grasp the rudiments of the Constitution.

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This is much better and will also stop the fight basically between republicans and democrats, and basically more choices for the people.
You are free to start your own political party anytime you're ready to quit talking and start chalking.

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We actually do have more than two parties. The trick is convincing people that one of the parties outside the two biggies are a viable enough option to vote for them.
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We already have multiple parties, including the Libertarian and Green but most people simply have never entertained voting for them. Gary Johnson did the best a minor party candidate has done in recent memory, scoring 3% in 2016.
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Not sure about multiple parties, but we definitely need a third party somewhere between the polar extremes of hyper-Liberal Democrats and hyper-Conservative Republicans.
You don't actually have 3rd Parties.

Running a candidate every 4 years for the presidency does not constitute a political party in the traditional sense.

You whine that people won't entertain 3rd Parties, but why should they? Why exactly should Americans entrust the presidency to a 3rd Party?

Based on what? Their party platform and ideology?

Those are just words, and words are meaningless.

Actions speak louder than words.

There are 13,684 school boards in the United States.

Show us just one school board that is dominated by Libertarian or Green Party candidates and what they have done. Did they balance or reduce the budget? Did they lower property taxes? Did they create policies that improved the quality of education?

There are 39,044 unincorporated and incorporated townships, villages, towns and cities in the US.

Show us just one where the township trustees, the mayor or the majority of city council are Libertarian or Green Party, and report how they have dealt with The Five Basic Priorities of Municipal Government: Security, Safety, Sanitation, Infrastructure and Green-Space.

There are 3,007 counties in the US. Show us just one where the majority of county commissioners are Libertarian or Green Party, and how they managed the court system, the county jail, police, property deeds, the assessment and collection of property taxes, county-owned roads and other infrastructure, and green-space.

You can't show us one single thing, because the Libertarian and Green Parties are totally devoid of intellect, leadership, organizational skills and administrative abilities.

Yet, you want them to run the country.

Maybe you don't see the inherent conflict there, but 90+% of Americans do, which is why Libertarian and Green Party candidates have zero chance of winning the presidency, unless and until they create a viable party.

It's not rocket science.

All it takes is one or two Libertarian candidates to win a seat on a school board or city council.

If their policies are truly as effective as they would have us believe, then not only will those individuals be re-elected, it will open the door for other Libertarian candidates.

Within 4 years, Libertarians would have a majority or total control of a school board, and a majority or at least a voting bloc on city council.

From there it's a short jump to county offices, like the clerk of courts, recorder, assayer, auditor, and commissioners.

From there the next step is running for the State legislature.

After a few terms as a State legislator, the next step is the federal congressional seat, or a shot at State positions like governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, secretary of state and so on.

Once you've achieved a governorship or congressperson or senator, the next step is the presidency.


The same holds true for the Green Party.


This is the 21st Century. You have an advantage that people in the three previous centuries didn't have, and that's the internet and social media.

If you can't use the internet and social media to set up and run a political party, you're pretty damn pathetic.

Develop a platform. Register your party. Set up a web-site and post your platform.

You'll attract like-minded people from across the US.

Recruit those people to function as party chairpersons in other States.

Start recruiting paying members to the party, and from them recruit candidates to run for offices on local school boards and city councils.

If your platform is both appealing and effective, and your candidates adhere to it, then you'll enjoy ever increasing successes, and within 12-14 years, you'll have a legitimate shot at the presidency, and pulling 20%-30% of the vote.
 
Old 09-04-2018, 05:56 AM
 
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The act of Betsy DeVos and her assault upon education will bring society to face the damages it has set up to try and invoke upon the coming generations of even the unborn. The general platform of education has made America over many decades an ever advancing nations. The acts of DeVos seek to "dumb down the people", which is beneficial the the wealthy and powerful elite who seek to dominate completely, the political landscape of the nation.

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People will awaken, they will turn back the madness and in doing so, usher in a new and improved public education system that prepare people for the 21st Century and beyond, by a design to be capable to transform for progress in the ways it teach and what it teaches. When the people are enlighten to the damages done after the 1960's which set out to diminish Civics Education, there will come the turn to re-establish "Civics Education", not just as a basic but as a interwoven Civics Education through all levels of the Educational Programming. It is crucial, it is necessary to educate people on "what is takes to be a Civil Society, How it Works and what is the role and responsibilities of Citizens in a Civil and Civic Based Society, which is Crucial to Understanding how to promote and sustain Democracy.
The concept of "Freedom" will become something people will relearn in the truth of what it is. It is first and foremost about "RESPONSIBILITY".... and people can and will come to learn, there is No Freedom, WITHOUT Responsibility.

To be Responsible, people first must learn what is Civics, and what is Civic Responsibility of Citizenry. That cannot flourish without respecting "Regulatory Governance"... because no nation can prosper with a random free for all to do anything and everything, at any time and any place... because that is only a chaos that destroys the system of Democracy, and will demolish our form of Republic formats of governance.

The new-found understanding of such "Responsibility", is what will insure the freedoms that Responsibility affords.

Our Monetary system, must atone itself to respect the purported system of what we call a "Quality Standard of Living"... which means pay, benefit and our governmental systems of programs must be in accord to achieve such; which means, a progressive mandatory progressive minimum wage, a universal health care for the people, and open enrollment in education for the mass of society without the cost prohibitive system which has been interjected upon society.

The 1980's attack on Higher Education by Ronald Reagan, will be reversed... (most today, do not know what was done to education and higher education under Ronald Reagan)...
It's already a subject of Political Concerns; the damage it has and continues to do to young people with excruciating debt, and jobs insufficient to pay that debt, as well as the great minds that it has shut out of gaining the education to advance themselves and this society. The tide will change, because society is learning that the attacks upon the masses to diminish them, that the wealthy and powerful can retain controls over the nation, the politics and the people is showing the damage in every sector of society.

No people remain unaware forever. When people are made and become aware, is when people stand up and push for the change that benefits society, the humanity of society, the education within society and move to improve the economics for the citizens that make up the society of the nation.
We are well past the time to be awakened, yet it is not too late.

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People are far more alike in their wants of life and liberty and fairness and the need to work and the want to work; by nature the human being is industrious and finds value within the individual through their ability to put to practice their industrious nature. These inherent things will break the bonds of race divisiveness, and they will shatter the fictions of class divisiveness, because "EDUCATION" is the key to information that leads to enhanced and improved understanding. Through understanding is the framework that mankind learns and pursue the bonds of what unity in being human beings in a civic and civil society.
We need no new political parties, we need a society that is self invested in Civics Education... it leads us to appreciate and respect what a Great Democracy that was long ago set in design for this nation. It is the basis of a Democracy we must return to embrace after the centuries and decades of acts of perversion upon and against it.

Again, I say, "Technology" is something which has always transformed societies. We have a technology today, that focuses on information, and in the Age of Information, Mankind become "enlightened".... and the enlightened seeks more information to gather and expand it base of knowledge... and a knowledgeable society becomes led to become a society that utilizes the wisdom's gained, to advances society for All.

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