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Old 09-02-2018, 05:37 AM
 
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Before the Steele Dossier, back in 2015 British Intelligence first noticed and became concerned regarding Trump and his teams meeting with Russian surveillance targets, and they passed their concerns to US Intelligence in 2015. Other European Intelligence agencies also became concerned as time passed.

The British sent all details of signal intelligence and surveillance as a matter of routine, indeed one of Britain's main roles in relation to the UKUSA Agreement and Five eyes is to monitor Russia. In this respect Britain was not wire tapping Trump or spying on him, he and his team became of interest due to the well known Russians they were in contact with, who were active surveillance targets themselves.

UKUSA Agreement - Wikipedia

British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia | Guardian

What does the British government know about Trump ... - The Spectator

Trumpworld is spinning out of control | The Spectator

The US was therefore supplied lot with intelligence from British and other intelligence agencies long before the dossier emerged.

The next thing to occur involved Joseph Mifsud who was also of interest to British Intelligence, being a London-based so called professor with connections to high-ranking Russian officials.

On March 24, 2016, Trumps Foreign Policy advisor George Papadopoulos met with Mifsud in London, who brought along with him a Russian woman, Olga Polonskaya, whom Mifsud falsely identified as Putin's niece.

On April 26, 2016, at a breakfast meeting at a London hotel, Mifsud told Papadopoulos that he had just learned from high-level Russian officials in Moscow that the Russians had “dirt” on Mrs. Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails.

Papadopoulos is now desperately trying to plea bargain to avoid jail, after pleading guilty to making false statements to FBI agents relating to contacts he had with agents of the Russian government while working for the Trump campaign.

As for Joseph Mifsud he has disappeared.

The Trump–Russia dossier, also known as the Steele dossier, is a private intelligence report comprising memos written between June and December 2016 and on the advice of Sir Ruchard Dearlove the former Head of MI6,the dossier was passed on to US Intelligence.

Christopher Steele, highly regarded and seen as very credible in British and Western Intelligence circles innclding by Sir Richard Dearlove, the former head of the British Secret Intelligence Service MI6.

'Dirty dossier' on Donald Trump is probably credible, says former MI6 boss - Telegraph

Former MI6 chief Richard Dearlove says Donald Trump borrowed money from Russia during 2008 financial crisis - The Independent

Republican Representave for California Devin Nunes, has recently been to London to try and find out any information on the case, however British Intelligence allegedly turned him away. Nunes serves as chairman of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and was a member of President Trump's transition team.

US Congressman Nunes sought meeting with UK spy chiefs in London - Reuters

Devin Nunes turned away by MI6, MI5, and GCHQ during hunt for Dirt on Christopher Steele. Britain’s Spies Wouldn’t Meet With Him - Slate

Devin Nunes's Secret Field Trip to London Ends in Failure | Vanity Fair

Steele and his dossier are part of the investigation, but there is lot more to it than just the dossier, and how much is released for public consumption is anyones guess.
Highly regarded? What kind of highly regarded intelligence asset "retires" at age 45?
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Old 09-02-2018, 05:39 AM
 
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Intel officials share info, even post-retirement. Persons at high levels in CIA, FBI, DOJ and MI-5 are patriots who protect their country's interests against known enemies, such as Russia.

There is absolutely nothing conspiratorial about this. trumpers try to paint it as sinister when it is the opposite. Much of what trump says and tweets is 180 degrees from the truth and this is no different.
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Old 09-02-2018, 05:43 AM
 
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How did you find out about Melania? The Inauguration Committee is not required to make public what it did with the money, so they have released no information.

How much of the $107 million did Melania give to her "friend?"
About $26M.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8214626.html

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...end-of-melania
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Old 09-02-2018, 05:45 AM
 
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Intel officials share info, even post-retirement.
One who performs their job well and honorably does not retire at age 45. They instead, move up in the ranks.
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Old 09-02-2018, 05:49 AM
 
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They keep turning over logs and finding snakes. You may remember that Trump's inaugural committee raised twice as much as any in memory, then didn't spend it. People have been asking for a long time where the money went. Now we find that Russians made straw purchases of inaugural tickets through American straw purchasers. Where did the money go? Into Trump's pocket. Tens of millions of dollars, into Trump's pocket.

When a US president takes payoff money from the Chinese, what would you call it?
Chinagate.
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Austin
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The Associated Press

@AP
BREAKING: Sources reveal senior Justice Department lawyer's interview with lawmakers: He said former British spy told him Russian intelligence believed it had Donald Trump 'over a barrel' during the 2016 campaign
9:18 AM - Aug 31, 2018

So:

anonymous sources told Associated Press, that

a senior JD lawyer told anonymous sources, that

a former British spy told senior JD lawyer, that

a Russian intelligence source told a former British spy, that

Russian intelligence had Donald trump "over a barrel".


MMkay.

anyone play the telephone game as a kid?

https://icebreakerideas.com/telephone-game/

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Old 09-02-2018, 06:11 AM
 
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One who performs their job well and honorably does not retire at age 45. They instead, move up in the ranks.
I retired at age 50 from a government investigative job....does that make me dishonorable as well?
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:16 AM
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Highly regarded? What kind of highly regarded intelligence asset "retires" at age 45?
One that wants to move on and work in the private sector after serving his country for twenty odd years and having put his life on the line.

Steele worked undercover in Moscow, and in Paris however Steele's identity as an MI6 officer and a hundred and sixteen other British spies had their cover blown by an anonymously published list that Her Majesty's Government attempted to suppress through a D-Notice in 1999

In 2003, Steele was sent to Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan as part of an MI6 team, briefing Special Forces on "kill or capture" missions for Taliban targets, and also spent time teaching new MI6 recruits.

Steele returned to London and between 2006 and 2009 he headed the Russia Desk at MI6.Steele's expertise on Russia remained valued, and he served as a senior officer under John Scarlett, Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), from 2004 to 2009.

Steele was selected as case officer for Alexander Litvinenko poisoning investigation and participated in the investigation of the Litvinenko poisoning in 2006. It was Steele who quickly realised that Litvinenko's death "was a Russian state 'hit'".

Steele was discovered to be on a Russian Federal Security Service hit list, along with Sergei Skripal who was poisoned in 2018 with Novichok in Salisbury. An FSB-agent describing him as an ″enemy of Mother Russia".

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Old 09-02-2018, 06:20 AM
 
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I retired at age 50 from a government investigative job....does that make me dishonorable as well?
50 is not 45.
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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One that wants to move on and work in the private sector after serving his country for twenty odd years.

Steele worked undercover in Moscow, and in Paris however Steele's identity as an MI6 officer and a hundred and sixteen other British spies had their cover blown by an anonymously published list that Her Majesty's Government attempted to suppress through a D-Notice in 1999

In 2003, Steele was sent to Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan as part of an MI6 team, briefing Special Forces on "kill or capture" missions for Taliban targets, and also spent time teaching new MI6 recruits.

Steele returned to London and between 2006 and 2009 he headed the Russia Desk at MI6.Steele's expertise on Russia remained valued, and he served as a senior officer under John Scarlett, Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), from 2004 to 2009.

Steele was selected as case officer for Alexander Litvinenko poisoning investigation and participated in the investigation of the Litvinenko poisoning in 2006. It was Steele who quickly realised that Litvinenko's death "was a Russian state 'hit'".

Steele was discovered to be on a Russian Federal Security Service hit list, along with Sergei Skripal who was poisoned in 2018 wiyj Novichok in Salisbury. An FSB-agent describing him as an ″enemy of Mother Russia".
Time to move him up the chain, out of intel collection and into analysis. He wasn't, so forced out in 2009.
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