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Old 09-07-2018, 07:39 AM
 
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A Swedish author once wrote they support Social Democracy purely for selfish reasons. They don't pay high taxes so others can have services, they pay them so THEY can have the services. They want to have healthcare, so they pay for it. They want to have education for themselves and their own kids, so they pay for it. They see it as purchasing services. In US people are offended by the fact that if they pay into such system they get the services, but others get it too.
Duh, they can pay for it voluntarily. Conversely, it’s evil to put a gun on people’s heads and force them to pay, and murder them when they refuse.
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Old 09-07-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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You said that the last time you checked, the definition of slavery was having to pay taxes, so I asked you where you checked the definition.

Where did you find that definition? Did you find it in Breitbart?

You are a taker. You like to take services, but not pay for them, and if you do pay, you can't stand the idea that other people have access to the same services.
Incorrect. Slavery is where people are forced to pay for other people’s living expenses, education, health care and child rearing. If they refuse to pay, they get executed.

Like you said, people should pay for the services they receive. Everybody should pay for the services at the same rate, which is moral, just and fair.
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Old 09-07-2018, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Duh, they can pay for it voluntarily. Conversely, it’s evil to put a gun on people’s heads and force them to pay, and murder them when they refuse.
They pay voluntarily. They voted for that system, and keep voting for it.

As for the rest of your post, it seems you have become unhinged.

Have a nice day

Your problem is the fact that you find the Constitution unacceptable. You will always see yourself as a victim and slave.
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Old 09-07-2018, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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How many people do you plan to slaughter?

Please name one socialist policy that doesn't require violence or a threat of violence to implement.

Translation, "I have a better idea for the lifestyle choices you should make. I have a better idea on how to run your company. I have a better idea on how to spend your hard earned money, etc.... You shall willingly comply with my demands.... or else."
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Old 09-07-2018, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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The 1%er's will never go for giving up what they have, and giving to the ones that dont contribute. And millions more will be added. I work, I pay for the services I need.
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Old 09-07-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Corporate social responsibility needs to be mandated...as long as we operate under the current "anything to maximize profits" we will continue on the same unsustainable trajectory. H1B workers, massive CEO salaries, paying dirt wages. Anything to get that extra dollar.

You think it all operates inside a bubble?


In a capitalist system, the customers are the boss. We decide if we want to buy your products or not.

If you own a company and the people learn you mistreat your employees, or use sweat shops in Vietnam, or you produce a substandard product, or you fire your American workers and ship all your production overseas... Then we the people, your customers, will stop buying your product. You only exist at the whim of your customers.
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:06 AM
 
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Corporate social responsibility needs to be mandated...as long as we operate under the current "anything to maximize profits" we will continue on the same unsustainable trajectory. H1B workers, massive CEO salaries, paying dirt wages. Anything to get that extra dollar.
What are the corporate social responsibilities?

How much a legal entity, be a corporation or individual, is paid is none of other people's business.

By the way, name one thing that is afforded to you NOT by those "anything to get that extra dollar." You can't.
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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They pay voluntarily. They voted for that system, and keep voting for it.

As for the rest of your post, it seems you have become unhinged.

Have a nice day

Your problem is the fact that you find the Constitution unacceptable. You will always see yourself as a victim and slave.
LOL! Give me a freaking break. Name the people who voluntarily pay more income taxes. Is that Warren Buffett or Bill Gates?


You said, I agree and I quote "You are a taker. You like to take services, but not pay for them, and if you do pay, you can't stand the idea that other people have access to the same services."

So people should pay for the services they receive, except 47% of people is US don't pay any income tax. How do they pay for the services? Where's their fair share?

In essence, 53% of people are forced to pay for the rest of the country.

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Old 09-07-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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My thoughts are basically yeah socialized health care if properly managed and better education would all be great things. However, we live in a country where people live off cheetos, have kids and basically keep them as pets as to not really caring about their future, the kids are just around. People here not all but a lot just really dont care for themselves or their families well being. There fore I dont want to be footing the bill for the decisions they made.

My wife teaches dance classes to young kids. Its pretty obvious which kids have a good family and those that dont.

Having been in the military and being part of Tri Care which is socialized health care, get use to ibuprofen until your leg falls off then they might actually do something.
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