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Old 09-05-2018, 09:13 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I've heard a few of these. They all seem the same total farce.

Friendly Senators lob softball questions... "What did you learn coaching your daughters' sports teams?" "Tell us about how you sing to the deaf in your spare time." "What conditioner do you use? Your hair look so full and vibrant." Blah blah..

Hostile Senators keep asking for opinions... "What do you think of court case XYZ?" "Do you agree or disagree with ABC?"

Judicial Nominee answers literally nothing... "I can't comment on that because it could compromise my perception of independence in the event that a related future court case comes before me."

Hostile Senators get pissed as if they were expecting him to slip up and blurt out "Abortion is MURDER!!!"

And this goes on for like twelve hours at a time, days on end.. :-)

The hell do we do this nonsense for?.. Everyone knows Kavanaugh was a done deal before this started. They have the votes.
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Here
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To watch Democrats and their supporters make ABSOLUTE fools of themselves. They are doing an outstanding job thus far.
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:22 PM
 
Location: The 719
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It's slow water-drip on the forehead torture.
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Old 09-06-2018, 12:23 PM
 
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its about Congress getting their face out there, earning donations for their party and attention seeking by those looking at running for President next election. i.e. Booker
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Old 09-06-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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Here's another serious question: when every single Democrat votes no on every single proposal that this administration puts out, exactly what makes them more qualified than a 4 year old who can write 'no'?
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Old 09-06-2018, 12:26 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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To watch Democrats and their supporters make ABSOLUTE fools of themselves. They are doing an outstanding job thus far.
that's about it.
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Old 09-06-2018, 12:54 PM
 
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it used to matter. It used to be about making sure a candidate was actually qualified. take for instance Bush Nominee Harriet Miers. She really wasn't qualified. the Senate sniffed that out quick and she withdrew her nomination.


As a general rule that's the way republicans have played the game.
proof of that would be the votes on Obama and Clinton nominations
Kagan: 63-37
Sotomayor 68-31
Ginsburg 96-3
Bryer 87-9


All of them are hard left individuals who going in everyone knew would vote on the court for hard left ideology. However, there was little question that they were qualified and that the sitting president had the right to pick people of like political construct.


The left however has played a different game. the left has absolutely been committed to only voting for those that believe as they do on matters of politics.


Gorsuch received 54-45 vote. Only 3 dems voted for him and they were from swing states
Roberts 78-22
Alito 58-42 (4 Dems voting for him)
Thomas 52-48
Souter 90- 9


While I didn't go back to the Reagan era, it was during that period that the left went absolutely hard core. judge Bork was immanently qualified but rejected because the left thought he was a conservative. period.


Republicans seem to be (regretfully ) moving in the direction of playing by the same rules the dems are playing by.
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Old 09-06-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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Here's another serious question: when every single Democrat votes no on every single proposal that this administration puts out, exactly what makes them more qualified than a 4 year old who can write 'no'?
Makes them as qualified as the Republicans who refused to support anything Obama did in his second term.

This isn't a left problem -- this is a left and right problem.

And there have been some bi-partisan bills that have gone through. But you don't hear about them because they don't do much for Trump's ego.
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Old 09-06-2018, 01:07 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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I've heard a few of these. They all seem the same total farce.

Friendly Senators lob softball questions... "What did you learn coaching your daughters' sports teams?" "Tell us about how you sing to the deaf in your spare time." "What conditioner do you use? Your hair look so full and vibrant." Blah blah..

Hostile Senators keep asking for opinions... "What do you think of court case XYZ?" "Do you agree or disagree with ABC?"

Judicial Nominee answers literally nothing... "I can't comment on that because it could compromise my perception of independence in the event that a related future court case comes before me."

Hostile Senators get pissed as if they were expecting him to slip up and blurt out "Abortion is MURDER!!!"

And this goes on for like twelve hours at a time, days on end.. :-)

The hell do we do this nonsense for?.. Everyone knows Kavanaugh was a done deal before this started. They have the votes.
The founders (who were mostly members of Congress) wanted to give the Congress oversight who the President was putting on the Supreme Court. To make sure the nominee was qualified, able to handle the position and would be independent of the President, the Supreme Court is the top of one of the 3 branches of the government after all.

Unfortunately they did not plan for all this partisan bickering. If the nominee is from our party, we automatically support him or her, unless the nominee is unusually bad. And if the nominee is from the opposite party, we are automatically against him or her. It has become an incredible farce.

As far as I am concerned, unless there really is some major issue or the nominee is truly unqualified, Senators should lean toward confirming the nominee. These nominees are professional judges with long careers, it is not right that people try to slander or vilify their careers just because they are from a different party.
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Old 09-06-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Here's another serious question: when every single Democrat votes no on every single proposal that this administration puts out, exactly what makes them more qualified than a 4 year old who can write 'no'?
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Makes them as qualified as the Republicans who refused to support anything Obama did in his second term.

This isn't a left problem -- this is a left and right problem.

And there have been some bi-partisan bills that have gone through. But you don't hear about them because they don't do much for Trump's ego.
Pretty much what the Republicans did to Obama. In fact, when I was the kid, the Democrats did it to Reagan. So it has been going on a long time, only gotten worse.
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