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View Poll Results: If the Anonymous Op Ed Proves True, Should Trump Be Forced Out?
Yes, absolutely! 137 55.02%
Heck no! 112 44.98%
Voters: 249. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-08-2018, 03:18 PM
 
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I agree with his conclusion, based on analyzing the language and writing, that it's a young, beta male who probably made suggestions to Trump that Trump ignored so he's hurt and seeking revenge.

i'm not sure how you think this helps your argument since it's claiming that the op/ed author IS someone with direct contact to the POTUS who would know the impressions of the other members of the administration.


unless you think coffee boys wander into the oval office throwing out suggestions to be rejected.
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Old 09-08-2018, 03:23 PM
 
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Even the Trumpers hate Trump.
I say it's General Kelly.
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Old 09-08-2018, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Florida
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He won the college educated white male vote.

He also won the college educated white female vote.

But keep saying it. Maybe one day it will come true.
Actually you are living in the past. The election was two years ago.

In addition, Trump did not win college educated females--Hillary Clinton did (51 - 45%). Say it all you want--you are wrong.

And he's lost the support of more since then--not just college-educated white women, but more women and college-educated white men.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...dterms/567658/
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Old 09-08-2018, 03:31 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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There was also a big swing for voters without a high school diploma, with Mr Trump leading 51% to Mrs Clinton's 45%. Four years ago, President Obama had 64% support from this group compared with Mitt Romney's 35%.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37922587

The gender gap in presidential vote preference is among the widest in exit polls dating back to 1972
(More MEN voted for Trump.)

College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%.

(The widest gap since 1980.)

67% of white non college graduates voted for Trump, according to the article. That means men AND woman.

I don't know how the non college graduates will vote this time. Women didn't vote for him in 2016 and by now they are FED UP. Fed up with his dirty mouth, his attitudes towards women, his stance on abortion, etc.

Evangelicals are probably his loyal base. They are told to believe everything, have faith. Having too much faith and not thinking can be dangerous--(Jim Jones cult where believers drank cyanide because he told them to)--and they will probably still vote for Trump.

But for anyone who has been paying attention, they will vote otherwise. And now with this latest revelation that some insiders are actually running the country...it adds fuel to the fire.
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Old 09-08-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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I say it's General Kelly.
Woodward’s new book Fear, claims Kelly said: “He’s an idiot. It’s pointless to try to convince him of anything. He’s gone off the rails. We’re in Crazytown. I don’t even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I’ve ever had.”

As Bill Maher points out, this guy was in Fallujah.
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Old 09-08-2018, 03:58 PM
 
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Amazing that no one is saying this op-ed is not true, that people are not snatching things off Trump's desk until he forgets about it.
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Old 09-08-2018, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Of the following, it can only be McMaster, Mattis or Kelly - the others aren’t in the Admin

Tillerson: “a f*cking moron”
McMaster: “idiot,” “dope”
Kelly: “unhinged,” “idiot”
Barrack: “crazy,” “stupid”
Cohn: “dumb as ****,” “a professional liar”
Mattis: like a “fifth- or sixth-grader”
Dowd: “a f*cking liar
Because of the sort of self congratulatory ending of the letter, I suspect someone fron the veep’s office. I do not think Pence would write this himself, but I suspect one of his guys might have.

Word is that Pence thinks of himself the way Cruz used to think of himself—as chosen by God to become a righteous president.

I do not think the NYT would have published an anonymous letter without careful vetting. Somebody knows who wrote it, and I suspect who did will eventually be ferreted out.
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Old 09-08-2018, 04:55 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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There was also a big swing for voters without a high school diploma, with Mr Trump leading 51% to Mrs Clinton's 45%. Four years ago, President Obama had 64% support from this group compared with Mitt Romney's 35%.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37922587

The gender gap in presidential vote preference is among the widest in exit polls dating back to 1972
(More MEN voted for Trump.)

College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%.

(The widest gap since 1980.)

67% of white non college graduates voted for Trump, according to the article. That means men AND woman.

I don't know how the non college graduates will vote this time. Women didn't vote for him in 2016 and by now they are FED UP. Fed up with his dirty mouth, his attitudes towards women, his stance on abortion, etc.

Evangelicals are probably his loyal base. They are told to believe everything, have faith. Having too much faith and not thinking can be dangerous--(Jim Jones cult where believers drank cyanide because he told them to)--and they will probably still vote for Trump.

But for anyone who has been paying attention, they will vote otherwise. And now with this latest revelation that some insiders are actually running the country...it adds fuel to the fire.
Yep, just not the fire you're dreaming of. You're setting yourself up for a mighty disappointing night on 11/03/20.
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Old 09-08-2018, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I’m talking about the poll that matters. The actual election results. The guy I was responding to made a false statement. Nothing that happens 60 days from now will make that statement true.
That is the election....
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Old 09-08-2018, 05:14 PM
 
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Amazing that no one is saying this op-ed is not true, ....

yep.
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