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Old 09-06-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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Found a list online and WTF is wrong with this country to not update and amend a document that supposedly rules the land for modern times? Even the expected life span of humans plays a role when you appoint a judge for life.
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•Failure to include equal rights provisions on grounds of sex and sexual orientation.
•Failure to extend the provisions of the Constitution to all persons physically within the boundaries of, subject to the jurisdiction of, under the control of, or incarcerated by (even if outside the boundaries) the United States of America.
•Failure to include a clear right to privacy (not merely vague limits on search and seizure), but explicit limits on government intrusion into personal affairs, including medical and religious ones.
•Failure to include a clear right to bodily integrity, prohibiting corporal punishment (including the death penalty, torture, forced sterilization, forced amputation, "chemical castration," etc.) -- with exceptions for requiring preventive measures to halt the spread of communicable diseases that represent a major threat to the public.
•Failure to establish uniform nationwide qualifications for voting, which even today is being used to pass voting laws to discourage certain groups from voting.
•Failure to explicitly establish the power of (and limits on) judicial review, which isn't in the Constitution at all.
•Failure to establish a uniform, nationwide, non-partisan mechanism for drawing boundary lines for House of Representatives districts, i.e. prevent gerrymandering.
•Insufficiently clear and explicit separation of church and state. Failure to explicitly prohibit religious interference in the political process and vice versa.
•Failure to publicly fund elections and prohibit their private funding.
•Failure to explicitly exclude corporations from political or civil rights and ban their participation in the electoral process.
•Failure to prohibit shareholder lawsuits that have the effect of discouraging good corporate citizenship and stewardship; i.e. lawsuits demanding that companies move jobs offshore or evade taxes.
•Failure to place limits on the ability of government officials to go to work in industries that they had a role in regulating, and the ability of citizens in industry from taking government regulatory roles in the same industry.
•Ambiguity concerning the right to bear arms.
•The Electoral College.
•Unlimited terms for Supreme Court justices. Ten years should be the maximum.
•Failure to establish a professional judiciary in which judicial positions are filled by a non-partisan Judicial Appointments Commission similar to that in Britain, rather than by politicians; and to prohibit electing judges, which makes about as much sense as electing neurosurgeons.
•Failure to prohibit filibustering, thereby enabling a minority of senators to block legislation that the majority clearly wants.
•Failure to prohibit a president from pardoning his or her predecessor.
•Failure to explicitly guarantee all US citizens living within the USA or its possessions the right to food, housing, education, and health care. (For those inclined to howl "Communism!" at this last one, the truth is that we already provide much of this; we just do a poor job of it. It would be better to be clear about it from the beginning.)
I'm sure we can come up with even more outdated and omitted stuff and much debate will surround the ones listed.

 
Old 09-06-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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THE greatest flaw:

Electoral college

It'll be scrapped some day.

Meanwhile...

 
Old 09-06-2018, 10:58 AM
 
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THE greatest flaw:

Electoral college

It'll be scrapped some day.

Meanwhile...

Little did any of us know that Trump the dolt was a prophet for 10 seconds.
 
Old 09-06-2018, 11:00 AM
 
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Little did any of us know that Trump the dolt was a prophet for 10 seconds.
Every dog has its day.

 
Old 09-06-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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Old 09-06-2018, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
THE greatest flaw:

Electoral college

It'll be scrapped some day.

Meanwhile...

The electoral college will NEVER be scrapped.
You would need 38 states to ratify getting rid of it, and in doing so, they would be reducing their own influence. Get used to it -- we are not running the country from CA, IL, NY and a few other states. Your democratic candidates are going to have to win at least some of "flyover" country if you want to win the presidency. Obama did it twice. Hillary failed. 2020 candidate? We'll see.
 
Old 09-06-2018, 11:11 AM
 
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Found a list online and WTF is wrong with this country to not update and amend a document that supposedly rules the land for modern times? Even the expected life span of humans plays a role when you appoint a judge for life.


I'm sure we can come up with even more outdated and omitted stuff and much debate will surround the ones listed.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-g...-United-States

At least share your source so we can all see what a joke this guy is. Some video game designer is not who I am going to take advice from on how to change the constitution, lots of his list is garbage.
 
Old 09-06-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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Making the same person head of state and head of government.

Admittedly an easy mistake to make in a room filled with people like Washington, Madison and Jefferson, but disastrous when the nation is in the hands of less skilled operators.

Most other modern nations separate these two - so that you have one fairly non-controversial person speaking for the country, and one speaking for the government. It hammers home the temporary nature of each administration vs. the permanence of the country, and it makes it easier to take pride in serving one's country even if you despise the current government.

In constitutional monarchies, you of course have the monarch whose credentials are impeccable. In Germany, for instance, you have the president - generally an "older statesman", ie. someone who sat in parliament for ages and never offended anyone.

It's a much better arrangement.

(Also, the German constitution starts with the words "Human dignity is unimpeachable", which is a kick-ass opening line.)
 
Old 09-06-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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Most other modern nations separate these two - so that you have one fairly non-controversial person speaking for the country, and one speaking for the government. It hammers home the temporary nature of each administration vs. the permanence of the country, and it makes it easier to take pride in serving one's country even if you despise the current government....

Please name some of these countries.
 
Old 09-06-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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Originally Posted by sickofnyc View Post
Found a list online and WTF is wrong with this country to not update and amend a document that supposedly rules the land for modern times? Even the expected life span of humans plays a role when you appoint a judge for life.


I'm sure we can come up with even more outdated and omitted stuff and much debate will surround the ones listed.

Everything in that list is Karl Marx's and every trial lawyer's dream.


The problem with the US constitution is that it provides for a Presidential system, rather than a parliamentary one, and doesn't have clearer restrictions that block the federal government from increasing its power. Otherwise, it's fine.
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