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We should have inmates build it for free. I would much rather see murderers, Rapists, marijuana dealers etc build the wall at a fraction of the cost than take soldiers away from defending our freedom abroad.
Sounds pretty expensive. Those murderers have nothing to lose in getting away without having a guard for each one.
What freedoms are our soldiers defending us in Syria, Afghanistan, and hundreds of other countries.
It is more like defending globalists interests abroad.
Both titles have to do with who pays for national guard troops, and service personnel.
It has always been the responsibility of the states to use the national guard, even though they are paid by the federal government.
If called upon, the guard could be used at the border to carry out the same duties that the marines would be doing.
Not sure if an executive order by the President could order the marines to the border.
He is the commander in chief of the armed forces.
I am thinking it would need to be approved by congress, but I am not sure.
I did a little research just now, and the Posse Comitatus act states the following.
The Posse Comitatus Act, which passed after the Civil War to keep federal troops from policing the South, limits federal troops' deployment on U.S. soil and forbids using them to enforce domestic laws. The President can deploy troops if there's an insurrection or invasion on U.S. soil.Apr 3, 2018
Obviously this country in under invasion from our southern border, and the President would be correct in sending the marines to the border.
In another article I read, it stated that the navy and marine corp are not mentioned in the act, so legally a president could use them to quell an invasion.
By invasion, one would normally think of troops from a foreign country, but the act does not state specifically what constitutes an invasion.
I would call over 11 million people entering this country illegally, and invasion.
Bob.
YOU may call the undocumented people an invasion, but that doesn't pass muster in American law, international law or morality. Ask yourself this question, who do you see replacing the work that the vast majority of undocumented people do? I'm being serious with this.
Think of the million of jobs and the disruption to society and business if all of a sudden all those jobs, most being menial or of a labor variety, were no longer being done. The USA currently has for all intents and purposes full employment, so you can't say that there is a large body of unemployed that can back fill those open jobs.
A much, much better solution is to find a path to documentation for those who have been here. If you think it is correct and moral for ICE to deport a current documented person because they had a traffic ticket at 18, and has lived in the USA for 30 years, most of them as a professor at a university, then I wonder what you would accept as a legitimate individual.
What happened to the morality of these millions of illegals that flaunted out laws and invaded our country.
Where is the morality there?
We have laws in place, and to blatantly disregard them is morally wrong.
Bob.
A civilized country does not indiscriminately place mines to kill people. That is what the communists used to do along their borders. We rightfully used to be horrified by reports of people being killed by them, and you endorse that?
Illegal aliens can't "lawfully" vote but there is evidence that some do. The Democrats want them legalized so that they can vote in the future and lastly they are vying for the votes of the ethnocentric type of Hispanic citizen who want's amnesty for their illegal amigos.
Please provide proof of this ‘evidence’ from a credible source.
YOU may call the undocumented people an invasion, but that doesn't pass muster in American law, international law or morality. Ask yourself this question, who do you see replacing the work that the vast majority of undocumented people do? I'm being serious with this.
Think of the million of jobs and the disruption to society and business if all of a sudden all those jobs, most being menial or of a labor variety, were no longer being done. The USA currently has for all intents and purposes full employment, so you can't say that there is a large body of unemployed that can back fill those open jobs.
A much, much better solution is to find a path to documentation for those who have been here. If you think it is correct and moral for ICE to deport a current documented person because they had a traffic ticket at 18, and has lived in the USA for 30 years, most of them as a professor at a university, then I wonder what you would accept as a legitimate individual.
LOL flawed logic...
Once they become documented federal labor laws apply. They went from being paid 5 bucks an hour to what you want for minimum wage to be-15 per hour, plus your beloved ACA...
LOL price of goods and services would skyrocket!
Or we can automate all the things...
I see that one of your links states that a wall won't stop visa over stayers. Well, duh that's obvious so how is that a argument against the wall? The wall is meant to deter border jumpers. Visa over stayers will just have to be dealt with in a different manner obviously.
As for climbing the good walls there has only one case of that and they broke both of their legs trying. We also have technology called tunnel sensors. There are natural barriers to illegal entry where a wall wouldn't be necessary and the Border Patrol can take care of those areas. As for those who don't want to sell any of their land for the wall then let them deal with the illegals and drug cartels themselves. They'll be crying for a wall in no time. Any more lame arguments?
There have already been tunnels discovered by accident with the existing walls.
One such tunnel was discovered at kfc when the owner was caught smuggling drugs.
The Israelis come across tunnels by accident as well and they have been at it for years.
We need to attack the cheap labor express as a first step.
We know their address and they are not going anywhere unlike illegals.
This has been explained to Trumpets dozens of times but they ignore it because it does not fit their fantasy.
The US/Mexico border is almost 2,000 miles long.
Any wall, only slows access, it does not prevent it. Wall can be breached in any number of ways.
To actually stop someone, you HAVE to have personnel, or boots on the ground once a breach or breach attempt is detected.
Now you have to be able to access the breach/attempted breach quickly.
Now you have to have man power near by. This means stations or forts or what ever you want to call them every few miles. This requires supplies, roads and a LOT of infrastructure that is on going EVERY DAY FOREVER.
The cost of the wall becomes small compared to what it will take to actually make it effective.
Have you ever actually looked at the border? It is a river. Rivers do not run in straight lines. It twists and turns every foot of the way. Nature changes the course in some areas. Some areas are cliffs. There are hundreds of obstacles to overcome. Land rights, water rights, access rights. The court cost and time alone will cost billions and take years.
It is just not practical. Anyone with any sense can see and understand this. Of course having vision and common sense is NOT a prerequisite for Trump supporters.
And it has been explained to the moonbats dozens of times. That is indeed the purpose of the wall - to slow access - to allow ground forces to react and respond. The border agents on the ground, you know the ones actually doing the job, feel that a wall would allow them to leverage their resources much more effectively.
According to the moonbats, we can defend the border by other measures such as sensors and cameras yet to respond to those, where access is not slowed, would require even more support infrastructure and expense.
Your argument is that the support system to defend the border with a barrier wall would be expensive but the reality is that support system to defend the border without a wall would be 10x more expensive so your argument fails. So what's your solution? Or are you saying we should just not defend the border against illegal entry?
This is a good idea, build the wall for Mollie and all those land owners along the border whom live in fear from trespassers and invaders. Yeah, they are still going to find new ways to get across, but make those ways more expensive so the mules have to charge 5 or 10 times more to get them across. The effect will be a drastic reduction of the number of people willing to try it. Have the military put in ground sensors, use satellite surveillance to look for people or vehicles which seem to pop up in the middle of nowhere along the border fence. I think the national guard should be used to patrol the wall. This will stop the flood of illegals and get it down to a trickle, so we can deport them faster than they can sneak in.
Just an idea, but they also need some way to check every truck that crosses the border for illegals. Maybe each truck used for border crossings carrying non perishable cargo, should be required to have the exhaust routed thru the trailer so the environment inside the trailer could never support life. Or maybe a nerve gas injection port installed on every trailer, where each and every truck is gassed for 15 minutes before crossing the border. Maybe some type of heat treatment could work, where they pump in 200 degree air for a short period, which would also kill any germs in the cargo and stop bed bugs and cockroaches from get in too.
We need to attack the cheap labor express as a first step.
We know their address and they are not going anywhere unlike illegals.
Willing to roll back voluminous regulations?
Willing to roll back taxes?
Willing to surrender social programs as a result of rolling back taxes?
Or would you go full steam ahead left and have the government run businesses?
As far as tunnels go-we have tools to detect seismic activity. You could place them all along the border. And when it detects a burrowing pack of smugglers... bring out an excavator and dig in front of them with border patrol standing by.
Yep build that wall. It will work to keep out all illegals that invade our country and over stay their visa's as well. Trump will ride in on his unicorn riding a unicorn over the rainbow and get them all out with his magic wand.
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