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Old 09-09-2018, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I had to laugh at Serena's coach after they got caught 'cheating'... he was upset that they didn't get a warning warning!

2019 US Open Ump: "This is a warning that I'm going to warn you with a warning that I may issue you a warning!"


Maybe the match was boring and he was just doing the hand jive.

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The cynic in me thinks Serena's p-r-o-l-o-n-g-e-d tantrum was an attempt to break Osaka's momentum and focus.
After reading DRob's recap, that's exactly what I thought. I don't follow tennis - but I know pitchers do that to break the momentum all the time.

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Yes, if a male tennis player can get away with saying a similar behavior or using similar language, then the sexist card might carry some weight.
It probably does carry some weight - but since she knows that female players are being held to different standards, then she knew what the outcome of her behavior was going to be. She made the choice.

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You're welcome. Truth is power.

I will repost the details again here in case others missed it.
Great idea, but I won't be surprised when some of the posters continue to ignore the truth.

 
Old 09-09-2018, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Players know officials.

Michael Cooper, defensive specialist for the Lakers during the 1980s, used to watch game film of referees to know their tendencies.

Think about that for a second.

The problem with SW's remark about it is she was playing a fellow female and surely knew who was in the chair and what you can do/can't do.

You aren't on that level and simply just go out there and play.
 
Old 09-09-2018, 01:43 PM
 
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Maybe the match was boring and he was just doing the hand jive.
Monday, After Serena gets through pounding his @ss over the weekend, I'm sure the world will learn he has a newly discovered malady..... Tennis Tourettes!
 
Old 09-09-2018, 01:47 PM
 
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SW's time has passed, and she realized that yesterday. Unfortunately, she failed to accept that fact well.

She had a super career, but all careers end, and she is on the verge of that.

I hope, in future matches, she exhibits behavior better suited to going out, head held high.
 
Old 09-09-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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Serena Williams’s epic tantrum in last night’s US open final wasn’t a noble stand against racism or sexism. It wasn’t about her being black, or a woman, or a mother — although of course it very quickly became about that, as Tweeters and sports hacks climbed over each other to defend the Queen of Women’s tennis because she is a famous mega brand and her brand is about being black, a woman, and a mother.

But in our hearts we all know what really happened. Williams behaved like a bad loser then pretended to be a victim of societal injustice to justify her bratty performance. It was a pathetic and depressing spectacle. The most depressing and pathetic part was that the New York crowd — so keen to see their heroine win — indulged and encouraged her self-pitying, whining, angry display. The fans cheered her on as she berated the umpire Carlos Ramos. His sin? Having the temerity to try to do his job.

Ramos issued Williams with a code violation — perhaps harshly — for being coached during the match. Williams felt aggrieved, lost her cool and couldn’t get it back. She smashed a racquet. She screamed repeatedly at Ramos about how she never cheats, how she has a daughter (so?) and eventually told him he owed her an apology and that he was a ‘thief’. For this she was punished, then she lost, and the final as a sporting contest was ruined. For this she is being called a legend.

Serena Williams can lose without behaving like diva brat, but sometimes she can’t, and when she loses her temper she is a fairly awful human being. She tried to have it both ways too — bigging up her opponent, saying her row shouldn’t distract from Osaka’s achievement. Her admirers said that showed amazing grace. But it didn’t. Amazing grace would have been not to turn the whole match into a spectacle of her self-importance.

She’s a great tennis player. Tennis is a sport that has rules. She broke them, was punished, and lost.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/0...-a-sore-loser/
 
Old 09-09-2018, 02:50 PM
 
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Throwing a tantrum after she lost and blaming it on everyone else but herself ?
Ladies and Gentlemen,I give you Serena Clinton.
 
Old 09-09-2018, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Perhaps this is the very point at which she begins to decline as far as skill and endurance. It happens to everyone.

This might be her time and she better learn to adjust without blaming everyone but herself.
 
Old 09-09-2018, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Disgusting comments by Williams.

Fortunately an anomaly as most pro tennis players, both sexes, are very gracious whether winning or losing.

I hate to sound like John McEnroe, but you CANNOT be SERIOUS!
 
Old 09-09-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Perhaps this is the very point at which she begins to decline as far as skill and endurance. It happens to everyone.

This might be her time and she better learn to adjust without blaming everyone but herself.
You sound very wishful but the reality is she destroyed all competition in the US open before getting to the final, this was one incident. She was of course wrong but she's not going anywhere, she lost matches last year this isn't the first.
 
Old 09-09-2018, 03:43 PM
 
Location: NY, NY
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Glad you are all such tennis experts to know that Serena was completely wrong and deserved the point deduction. Silly me was listening to Billie Jean King, Roger Federer, and Chris Evert who all agreed with Serena. So glad you guys know more about tennis rules than a group of people who have dozens of Grand Slam victories.
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