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Old 09-09-2018, 08:16 AM
 
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It’s hard to believe that the American people were stupid enough to elect a man who thinks that the only way to bring back manufacturing jobs is to “wave a magic wand”!

This is why we need more businesspeople in government, and less lawyers and political science majors.


What is a good business person?

It depends on the type of business, where that person is in the business cycle, their specific skills.

Much credit is given to Trump for his business success. Some of it has bee in real estate development but most of his success is branding. He has had terrible failures with casinos, private schools, etc......He hasn't been successful everywhere.

Let's take his most successful venture -- his brand. If we look at some of the most successful branding business people we can see clearly that being a great phenomenal business person in that area doesn't equate to being able to have the skills necessary for making decisions for the country.

Kris Jenner had turned the Kardashians into a multi-million dollar success story with branding. All branding.

I don't want her make decision at the federal, state or municipal level.

She's phenomenal at her business.

Trump's business is branding his name for luxury resort -- hotel/golf. That's his biggest success. That doesn't mean he can figure out how to stimulate the economy in small town USA.

And yes the economy is doing well NOW but the areas where there were no jobs or there were issues -- there still are. Coal is still coal. Steel has seen minor improvements at the expense of losing businesses in other areas (minor improvement in some steel industries because of tariffs but we all pay that price).

Trump doesn't have the finesse required to understand the complexities of helping out one industry without taking down another. Trump won't look at the net effect of his policies. He'll see that one steel plant hiring 300 people -- while 3 other businesses close that employed 500 people.

That's a problem.
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:21 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Tax cuts, attempts to make our foreign trade more fair to the U.S., reduction in regulations, and PRO BUSINESS RHETORIC which gives businesses the idea that the U.S. will become more business friendly. It gives them confidence, and allows them to make arguments to build stuff here instead of overseas.
I know that's what Trump did. I was asking about Obama.
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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People who don't give Obama credit for what he accomplished are simply being willfully ignorant. They are probably people who won't read all the white paper from; Forbes, Wall Street, or dozens of other opinions from respected business papers and magazines.The general consensus is Obama pulled the car off the cliff and all Trump has to do is push it down to road. Who's job would you want to do? Ironically the only recent presidents that did better than Obama in some areas of the economy were Democrats.

Furthermore, while shortfalls do exist on the Obama end-of-term report card, his performance holds up more than adequately against other US leaders of recent history. As such, perhaps history will view the Obama legacy as being one of precisely the steadiness that the country needed following the Great Recession, and as a necessary precursor to the better days that Trump can hopefully deliver to the American people.
https://internationalbanker.com/brok...ncy-2009-2017/



Obama did none of that. The 2010 Mid-terms put the brakes on the total devastation Pelosi had created.
Presidents just set an agenda and sign legislation Congress puts on his desk. Sometimes Congress has a different agenda that the President.
The Media can play one side over the other all too easy, to set the bad guy in stone. That is why the truth on the internet must be silenced. The dinosaur "Mockingbird" CIA run media has lost control of the narrative.
It is the reason Trumps direct tweets are so devastating to the medias lies.
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I know that's what Trump did. I was asking about Obama.
Got it. Obama is a classic Keynesian, or even more socialist/communist. He paid back UNIONS for helping him get elected, paid back the greenies with money to firms like Solyndra that went bankrupt, and took good cars off the road that poor people could afford. He did little to "help" businesses, or the economy in general. He even laughed about the "shovel ready jobs" he promised. Despicable.
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Or better yet, let's make them equal in physical stature but have one carry a gun while the other have no gun. Guess which one a street thug will look to mug?



I'm not about "making" (forcing) anyone to do anything they don't wish to do.
Now, if a person wants to be able to enforce their statement of, "NO", who is going to stop them?


Obama handed Trump a jar he was never able to opened.
Trump opened it with ease.
Obama yells, "I loosened it for you"
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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Trump followers are like a cult. They eat up whatever BS he is selling.
He gets results. Obama got failure.
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:33 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Trump doesn't have the finesse required to understand the complexities of helping out one industry without taking down another. Trump won't look at the net effect of his policies. He'll see that one steel plant hiring 300 people -- while 3 other businesses close that employed 500 people.

That's a problem.

Not Americans

500 illegal alien parasites....
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:37 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Got it. Obama is a classic Keynesian, or even more socialist/communist. He paid back UNIONS for helping him get elected, paid back the greenies with money to firms like Solyndra that went bankrupt, and took good cars off the road that poor people could afford. He did little to "help" businesses, or the economy in general. He even laughed about the "shovel ready jobs" he promised. Despicable.



Don't try and sugarcoat it.
They pulled the masks off with no fear, to expose the Communist Manifesto.
Their hero's are Mao, Castro and Stalin.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qDsrfy-Zvg
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:37 AM
 
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Stagnation v. Massive Growth


Trump has made Obama & Hillary look like grade school drop-outs.
Trump has proved how wrong they were.
Trump talked big and then backed it up. He didn't just give us lip service as the puppet master had a hand up his ass.
That's some major TDS right here folks.
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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That's some major TDS right here folks.
You need to look up the definition of TDS. It's not what you think.
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