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Old 09-11-2018, 10:05 AM
 
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But don't you know? All that means is that EVERYBODY should carry around a semiautomatic rifle with them ALL THE TIME!
Would there still be mass murder if that comes to be the reality?
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:05 AM
 
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Even full autos are not THAT tightly regulated.

the AK 47, full auto is STILL the most mass produced, most widely used, most copied assault weapon on the entire planet!!

Right...I'm calling BS on that. That is , if you want to be legal.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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A new study was published today:
Lethality of Civilian Active Shooter Incidents With and Without Semiautomatic Rifles in the United States

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2702134


It shows that in the United States, shootings that involved a semiautomatic rifle resulted in nearly twice as many deaths compared with shootings carried out with only regular handguns, shotguns or rifles. I don't see mention of semiautomatic handguns in the study.



Thoughts? Should semi-automatic firearms be regulated as tightly as fully automatic firearms?
You know there is a much simpler solution: ban mass murderer.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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I doubt anyone needed a study to tell them that. But the 2nd Amendment folks will tell us it's too bad, we have to live with it, because the founding fathers were more concerned about the rights of unhinged people wielding weapons of mass destruction (that they didn't know were coming) than the rights of their victims. Because guns are more important than people.

Oh, they'll couch it in different words, but that's basically what it comes down to.


in 2016, 45k people committed suicide....


Ban suicide?


https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/stat.../suicide.shtml
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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Thoughts? Should semi-automatic firearms be regulated as tightly as fully automatic firearms?
You and the other anti-gun zealotry can have your ban on semiautos when those same exact weapons are banned from military and law enforcement use. If the citizen cannot possess it, then neither can the agents of tyranny.

Propose a COMPLETE ban on semiautos, STARTING with the police and military, and then fine...ban away. As long as I can remain on relatively equal footing with the opponent that has the absolute, far and away highest probability of actually oppressing me at the point of a gun, then sure, do whatever you need "for the kids."

Until the military and police put theirs down, I won't put mine down.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I doubt anyone needed a study to tell them that. But the 2nd Amendment folks will tell us it's too bad, we have to live with it, because the founding fathers were more concerned about the rights of unhinged people wielding weapons of mass destruction (that they didn't know were coming) than the rights of their victims. Because guns are more important than people.

Oh, they'll couch it in different words, but that's basically what it comes down to.





The Founding Fathers could not have foreseen that firearms would become more efficient over time and they certainly could not foresee the rise of deranged criminals that seek to murder and destroy their fellow humans. Of course they had crime and murderers in their time but those people were dealt with in a way that would be deemed inhumane by the human rights and liberals of today.



The FF had no idea what the Second Amendment would do to America when criminals flourished just like how they had no idea how the First Amendment would be subverted and bent to allow hate groups to legally have their say and not to mention the garbage that is all over the internet and protected.



The FF would be shocked by the cruelty and stupidity of mankind today.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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if you look at the numbers, far more shootings used a handgun. why not ban handguns too?
You know that's an aim and is being actively advocated for. Handgun Control, Inc., which is now the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:15 AM
 
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Not sure where you post is going but these deaths are a stastical anomaly
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:17 AM
 
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The Founding Fathers could not have foreseen that firearms would become more efficient over time and they certainly could not foresee the rise of deranged criminals that seek to murder and destroy their fellow humans. Of course they had crime and murderers in their time but those people were dealt with in a way that would be deemed inhumane by the human rights and liberals of today.



The FF had no idea what the Second Amendment would do to America when criminals flourished just like how they had no idea how the First Amendment would be subverted and bent to allow hate groups to legally have their say and not to mention the garbage that is all over the internet and protected.



The FF would be shocked by the cruelty and stupidity of mankind today.
The govt was not out of control tyrannical at the time of the founding fathers either...

Nor could the founding fathers foresee a time when govt would disguise tyranny under protecting health/safety, in order to fool the people.

Point is, the Govt NEEDS to fear the people and their capability to some degree, as to prevent all out tyranny.

Seriously ask yourself, what would the chances be today if the people needed to remove this govt from power?...would they last 5 minutes against the military or police? LOL
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:19 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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But don't you know? All that means is that EVERYBODY should carry around a semiautomatic rifle with them ALL THE TIME!
As usual, the board leftist fanatics with no point to make, can do nothing but rant hysterically. Some things never change.
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