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Name one crime President Trump has committed?...............just one. You listen to much to the sheman on msnbc
The sheman doesn't have any proof either. What is wrong with you?
Take your pick, a singleton or multiples is fine:
Treason, Conspiracy against the United States, Obstruction of Justice, Inciting Violence, Racketeering, Sexual Assault, Dereliction of Duty, Perjury of Oath, Bribery, Money Laundering, Witness Tampering, Tax Evasion, and Emoluments violations.
"But where is your evidence...?" you may ask (and almost certainly will).
"Currently still being gathered", is the reply. "It takes a while with so many crimes and so many people they were committed with. Have a little patience, hm? There's a good boy..."
People or certainly the left forget he wasn't part of the Trump campaign all that long.
The 'coffee boy' excuse.
Trump knew manafort for decades. Even after Manafort left the campaign, he continued to unofficially work closely with the campaign. The firing was just for optics.
my dad resigned from being the public face of the campaign but is still very much involved behind the scenes. He felt he was becoming a distraction and that would ultimately take a toll on the campaign......It’s all just PR.
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The naiveté shown on this thread is truly touching.
Manafort wasn't a stranger who showed up out of the blue to work for free for a few weeks, then disappear. He and Trump have been involved in various business matters for years.
Trump and Manafort have known each other at least since the 80's.
Manafort is a childhood friend of Roger Stone, long-time Trump advisor. Manafort, Stone, and Charles Black formed a lobbying group. Trump was one of their first client.
In the 1980's, Trump hired Manafort as a lobbyist on gambling and real-estate issues.
Treason, Conspiracy against the United States, Obstruction of Justice, Inciting Violence, Racketeering, Sexual Assault, Dereliction of Duty, Perjury of Oath, Bribery, Money Laundering, Witness Tampering, Tax Evasion, and Emoluments violations.
"But where is your evidence...?" you may ask (and almost certainly will).
"Currently still being gathered", is the reply. "It takes a while with so many crimes and so many people they were committed with. Have a little patience, hm? There's a good boy..."
If any of that were true why is it taking this long to charge him with anything? Why would Mueller and his team allow this to continue if they had solid evidence of even one of those crimes?
manafort's own daughter claims he continued to run the campaign even after publicly stepping down.
Then it should be easy to prove that Trump colluded with Russia right? I mean, going after Manafort for tax crimes from 10 years ago doesn't mean ****, when do we get the good stuff?
Leftists don't know this, they think that when someone "cooperates" with a prosecutor by simply answering questions or takes a plea deal it 100% means they are ratting on someone (Trump).
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713
In this case, it appears that Manafort is not innocent.
So what prosecutors routinely do is say to the defendant something like the following:
'If we go to trial, we are going to pursue a charge of first degree murder against you, which carries a sentence of (say) 30-life. However, we will offer you a 'plea deal' of second degree murder, which only carries a sentence of (say) 10-20 years. Once we go to trial, this offer is withdrawn. So, this is the 'plea deal' we are offering you. Do you want it or not.'
Of course the defendant can make a counter-offer and a negotiation commences. If they reach a deal, the judge usually goes along with that. If there is no deal, they go to trial.
This happens thousands of times a day in DA's offices across the United States. It is the standard, normal way that our justice system works, for better of for worse.
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Originally Posted by dashrendar4454
A plea deal does NOt mean you have to “sell anyone out”
It means you decide to avoid the trial and get less jail time
Most criminal cases are resolved through plea deals
Let me guess: The Fox News talking point for the afternoon is that the fact that Manafort is talking about a plea agreement is no big deal.
While you're correct that a plea deal does not necessarily mean a defendant is ratting someone out, cooperating with the Government is often part of a plea deal. And "cooperating" in this context does not mean being congenial or not putting up a fuss. It means giving the Government information that they want which is helpful in the prosecution of someone else.
The only people who know what's going on right now are the parties. The rest is pure speculation.
It will be interesting to see what President Twit(ter) thinks about it.
Plea deal for what? Manafort will already be spending a long time in jail when he gets sentenced and may get his sentence commuted by Trump, at a later date.
Manafort is not going to risk, no commuting of his sentence by working with Mueller and it seems the left always wants to make it sound like there is something on Trump, but so far it is the FBI top including Mueller, who will be or are investigated!
Manafort has not been sentenced on the other charges and the Government can still recommend a lesser sentence on those charges if he cooperates with them. Manafort has to weigh the chance of being pardoned or having his sentence commuted against getting a shorter sentence right now in exchange for giving information.
Let me guess: The Fox News talking point for the afternoon is that the fact that Manafort is talking about a plea agreement is no big deal.
It's a huge deal for Paul Manafort, not so much for the Russia collusion investigation.
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