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Old 09-14-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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Russian money laundering and being an agent of a foreign government are so far removed from a foreign government interfering in our elections using Russian money that it is difficult to imagine what the connection could possibly be.

We should probably go back to discussing Clinton's back brace.

As you know very well, there were no charges of "Russian money laundering" or any involvement by Manafort with Russia in any way.

But even knowing that this assertion was patently untrue, you posted it anyway. What does that tell us about you?
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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These charges have exactly nothing to do with 1) interference in our elections, 2) collusion with Russia for any reason, or 3) anything at all to do with Donald Trump.

This conclusion will stoke the fires of the "witch hunt" assertions, which I expect President Trump will confirm by tweet shortly, if he has not already.
lol, wow. Spartacus can you remember when you guys claimed it was all just lies and noise...


Now you guys are reduced to saying "yeah but you don't have trump yet"... cause his people are going down in a big circle all around him....
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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These charges have exactly nothing to do with 1) interference in our elections, 2) collusion with Russia for any reason, or 3) anything at all to do with Donald Trump.
Not so fast. While the charges themselves have nothing to do with election hacking or a criminal conspiracy with Russia, what Manafort might say if he cooperates is a whole different ballgame. If he does sing it will almost certainly implicate Trump.

The publicly available information is this:

-- The Trump campaign was fully informed and knew Russia was hacking and interfering in our election. The records show this and is indisputable fact.

-- After they were so informed, they negotiated, promised and worked on lifting the sanctions. The records show this and is also indisputable fact.

The missing piece are communications bridging these two items. Mueller gets evidence of communication facilitating those two items and it's a criminal conspiracy. No more, no less.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:35 AM
 
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lol, wow. Spartacus can you remember when you guys claimed it was all just lies and noise...

Now you guys are reduced to saying "yeah but you don't have trump yet"... cause his people are going down in a big circle all around him....
You guys are reduced to trying to move the goalposts, and not just by a few yards, but into onto an entirely different field.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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Not so fast. While the charges themselves have nothing to do with election hacking or a criminal conspiracy with Russia, what Manafort might say if he cooperates is a whole different ballgame. If he does sing it will almost certainly implicate Trump.

The publicly available information is this:

-- The Trump campaign was fully informed and knew Russia was hacking and interfering in our election. The records show this and is indisputable fact.

-- After they were so informed, they negotiated, promised and worked on lifting the sanctions. The records show this and is also indisputable fact.

The missing piece are communications bridging these two items. Mueller gets evidence of communication facilitating those two items and it's a criminal conspiracy. No more, no less.
LOL. MSNBC much? That is just a bunch of baseless hyper-partisan jibbering nonsense.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...34494846464001

Lordy, I hope there are tapes.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:38 AM
 
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Until now, it looked like Manafort was holding out for a pardon.

It appears he has given up on that.

It's every man for himself.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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This is a Lawrence O’Donnell tweet:

Robert Mueller is undefeated.

Most prosecutors get convictions in most of their cases, but we’ve never seen a Special Prosecutor who gets guilty pleas in all of his cases.

“So much winning...”
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Does anyone else hear Queens "another one bites the dust" playing?
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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Does anyone else hear Queens "another one bites the dust" playing?
Here it is, so that we can all hear:
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