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Old 09-12-2018, 05:51 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Rebel Media gets the exclusive interview.
Tommy makes his case very well, why he was wrongly arrested, detained and imprisoned.
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Who's Tommy Robinson?
Why should I care?
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:37 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Who's Tommy Robinson?
Why should I care?
You cared enough to take time out of your precious day, to put your fingers on the keyboard and reply.


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Old 09-13-2018, 09:05 AM
 
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It was frightening at how fast the UK locked up that man without any due process. This simply because they wanted to silence him.
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:12 AM
 
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It was frightening at how fast the UK locked up that man without any due process. This simply because they wanted to silence him.
This is what happens when they fear you. They go after you with force. All for the truth you speak.
I weep for the children of Europe.
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:17 AM
 
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Who's Tommy Robinson?
Why should I care?

He's a violent career criminal and football hooligan who owns a tanning salon in Luton and uses several assumed names. That's all I've got.
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:22 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Rebel Media gets the exclusive interview.
Tommy makes his case very well, why he was wrongly arrested, detained and imprisoned.
The procedure was wrong, as the case should have been sent to the Attorney General and he should have had time to speak fully with a lawyer.

However people are jailed for contempt of court including for failing to comply with court orders.

In terms of Robinson stating other people or ogranisations were just fined, they were not already on suspended sentences for going in to a Court with a Camera and causing problems.

Furthermore this case was further complicated because the identites of young vulnerable victims were at risk and because the case was one of three ending later this year.

In terms of Breach of the Peace, the police have the power to arrest someone in order to prevent a potential breach of the peace, and given Robinson was involved in conversation and indeed an exchange of insults with some of those going in to Court, the police acted within the law and had every right to detain him.

The only thing that was at fault was the Court procedure, and this was acknowledged by the Court of Appeal, hence the retrial.

It also should be noted that Robinson has beeb found guilty of Contempt of Court at Cabterbury was warned by the Judge then and has been found guilty of numerous violent offences and fraud over the years. He also hasn't been cleared of anything and nor has any wronful arrest, detainment or improsonment been established.
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The procedure was wrong, as the case should have been sent to the Attorney General and he should have had time to speak fully with a lawyer.

However people are jailed for contempt of court including for failing to comply with court orders.

In terms of Robinson stating other people or ogranisations were just fined, they were not already on suspended sentences for going in to a Court with a Camera and causing problems.

Furthermore this case was further complicated because the identites of young vulnerable victims were at risk and because the case was one of three ending later this year.

In terms of Breach of the Peace, the police have the power to arrest someone in order to prevent a potential breach of the peace, and given Robinson was involved in conversation and indeed an exchange of insults with some of those going in to Court, the police acted within the law and had every right to detain him.

The only thing that was at fault was the Court procedure, and this was acknowledged by the Court of Appeal, hence the retrial.

It also should be noted that Robinson has beeb found guilty of Contempt of Court at Cabterbury was warned by the Judge then and has been found guilty of numerous violent offences and fraud over the years. He also hasn't been cleared of anything and nor has any wronful arrest, detainment or improsonment been established.

Civil offense treated as if it were a criminal offense, worse than murder.
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:45 AM
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Civil offense treated as if it were a criminal offense, worse than murder.
Contempt of Court isn't a civil offence, and you can be detained for it without arrest under section 12 of the Contempt of Court Act 1981.

Detention without arrest is only permitted in certain circumstances, mainly in relation to Contempt of Court (to be brough before the Court) and the Mental Health Act (for psychatric evaluation).

In terms of preventing or in relation to a breach of the peace the police did not pursue the matter, however they should have explained this fully and should have made Robinson aware that he was now being detained for Contempt of Court.

The Police and Court did not use the correct procedure, which would have been to release Robinson under bail restrictions and submit the Contempt of Court case to the Attorney Generals Office.

Bail conditions could have included not going within 100 metres of a Court and restrictions regarding social media usage etc.

The fact that Robinson was already on a suspended sentence for contempt complicated the issue, as did the nature of the court case in relation to young vulnerable people and the subsequent press restrictions.

In terms of the retrial this should be happening in the next month at the Old Bailey in London.

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Old 09-13-2018, 09:46 AM
 
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Contempt of Court isn't a civil offence, and you can be detained for it without arrest
Treated worse than a murderer, for exposing the truth and speaking freely.
Treated differently that other reporters that violated the same regulations.
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