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See THAT^^^ is the problem. "It's not my problem, but you need to find a way to make it work". You know, if the roles here in society were reversed you would be singing another tune lady. And if people here in America don't care about each other than who does? WE have to come together as a nation, and saying "its not my problem" doesn't solve anything.
She sang her tune, and it was perfectly in key. She told you how to address the situation: "...it's your problem to petition the legislature to resolve."
It's not her fault if you're dissatisfied with the democratic process. After all, how else are legal issues to be addressed if not through the legislature?
Do you recommend water-boarding everyone who disagrees with you?
No, of course not. The problem I see is that people say it is "not their problem" or "they don't care", but when it comes time to vote their outcome says otherwise.
No, of course not. The problem I see is that people say it is "not their problem" or "they don't care", but when it comes time to vote their outcome says otherwise.
I believe she said it was not her problem because in her opinion it is not.
Again, there are two views of "marriage" that you're trying to equate as the same. They're not. You can call them all "marriage" if you want -- I really don't care. But when the state "marries" two people, the procedure, criteria and concerns are DIFFERENT than what a religious marriage requires. For a state marriage, an application has to be filed and a license obtained, and state criteria need to be satisfied. You can do the marriage in a few days. A religious marriage involves pre-marital classes, counseling, and religious preparation. In some religions, a civil service does NOT mean you're married in the eyes of the church and you have to have another service in church. And, yes, I have often heard of distinctions being made between a "civil service" and a "church wedding."
The fight for legal same-sex marriage has nothing to do with getting churches to marry same-sex couples. It is strictly a fight to get the State to expand the State's current definition of marriage to be non-gender-specific.
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But you missed the point I was making. The OP is bashing religion -- even though he makes it clear that he is not a believer and he denigrates anyone who is -- while demanding "legal gay marriage." That's a STATE matter, so WHY is religion being bashed? As I pointed out, there ARE churches that will marry homosexuals and there are states in which it's legal, too. His beef should be framed in the context of civil law and leave the churches out of it.
Religion is bashed because in this country it is within religious rhetoric that you find the primary opposition to same-sex marriage. While some religions do accept same-sex unions, marriage, etc. they are a tiny minority within the general religious realm that wields political might in America. When the churches stop being the primary motivator influencing people to vote against same-sex marriage then they will be left out of the rants by people who are upset that same-sex marriage is still being kept illegal.
If you are trying to sway me its not going to work, and if not then we are just beating a dead horse here.
That wasn't my intention. I was simply trying to clarify your misreading of the other Mama's post.
Go forth and believe what you will. We all do.
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