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Old 09-14-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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Actually, more than half of the nation is fine with Mueller's investigation. Only 30% believe Trump over Mueller.
More Fake news commie polls? You didn't do so well with those in the election period toward demoralizing Trump voters, so what makes you think that they have any credibility now? They have none. Take your politically interested propaganda elsewhere.

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And we know who those 30% are, present company included.
Meaning what? Be direct.

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The fact that so many have plead guilty and are in cooperation agreements with Mueller speaks volumes.
Yes, it speaks to exactly what I prior stated. People always plea with the Feds.

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So no, this isn't a fishing expedition.
It absolutely is. That's clear to all of the nation if they were being honest, as has been repeatedly stated here by libs who have slipped up and admitted that Mueller is out to get Trump.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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Very true, we're really going to have to examine as a country what led to so many of our citizens jettisoning their sanity and putting such a uniquely unqualified lunatic in power.
Ignoring your weak-sauce ad hominem attack on both Trump voters and Trump, you will.

Though you will predictably go in the opposite direction that you should, as you always have, and continue to ignore the issues and the political interests of those who did. Because you have to, because any truly honest accounting would leave most liberals without a principled moral argument. This failure of process will lead to a much worse solution for you in the future. This is just the beginning.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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and continue to ignore the issues and the political interests of those who did
No, I'm saying we can't do that.

We have to understand how so many people could be duped by this clown show into thinking he would actually be a good choice for leader.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:26 PM
 
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I bet a Republican-run FBI could have gotten a lot more convictions against a Hillary presidency.
The republican run FBI is doing a fine job draining trump’s swamp.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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More Fake news commie polls? You didn't do so well with those in the election period toward demoralizing Trump voters, so what makes you think that they have any credibility now? They have none. Take your politically interested propaganda elsewhere.



Meaning what? Be direct.



Yes, it speaks to exactly what I prior stated. People always plea with the Feds.



It absolutely is. That's clear to all of the nation if they were being honest, as has been repeatedly stated here by libs who have slipped up and admitted that Mueller is out to get Trump.
Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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no one needed to think he was a good choice. they just needed to think he was a better choice than hillary. outside of the nut jobs in CA, the country did.
The reason we need to examine why they thought this is because they have been proven so colossally wrong.

If we hope to avoid a similar mistake in the future, we need to address the fundamental problems that caused this choice. I'm sure you would agree that the orange maniac is clearly not qualified and is not actually addressing any of these.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:40 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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The republican run FBI is doing a fine job draining trump’s swamp.
The FBI is run with Obama holders, who should have all been fired the day Trump took office.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The FBI is run with Obama holders, who should have all been fired the day Trump took office.
What a nonsensical statement.

The FBI is run by a Trump appointee.

You're saying the career civil service agents should have been fired?
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:43 PM
 
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No, I'm saying we can't do that.

We have to understand how so many people could be duped by this clown show into thinking he would actually be a good choice for leader.
He spoke to the core interests of his voter base, who were purposefully ignored and deceived by decades by cutout politicians who served other interests. That's your answer. And it it quite obvious, btw. Starting with the 2016 election season. This is not rocket science. Stating that this is a mystery borders on incredible.

Even a modicum of movement toward their interests is better representation that any Neocon has ever offered. In fact, Trump simply giving their interests a (begrudged) mainstream platform has helped them more than any other politician has. You cannot, with any true honesty, seek to convince a Trump voter that the Bush's (for example) better represented them than does Trump.

Similarly, the progressives became overt racial-interest politicians for groups competing with the majority group Trump voters, seeking ever-further racial political rent and other related resources. Hence, you cannot sit there and try to convince a Trump voter that there were any leaders for them in the other party.

Last, your characterization of Trump as a "clown show" will ring hollow and read as deaf to Trump voters, because the truth is that their perception is that the commie machine in this nation has not let Trump breath for a single moment, since inauguration, and do his job. What they see is only an opposition circus, the source of the "clown show" that is hurting this nation, and they are not wrong.

Trump may be a "clown show" as you state, but the fact is that he hasn't been allowed to have the elbow room to prove it either way. If he had been allowed that space, perhaps he would have proven you correct in a manner that would have allowed your accusation to speak for itself. The truth of the matter is that the rabid commie hate for Trump has tainted that accusation and made him into a permanently sympathetic figure. This process was not helped by the ongoing obvious rabid media bias, to include the fake polling and everything else, in the elections season. When you mortgage your credibility, you can't expect to have your ongoing histrionic behavior and accusations read as credible.

Stop faking ignorance as to why Trump is in office. Its obvious to anyone with an IQ over 100. Moreover, this brand of approach will lead to someone far more serious than Trump in his Office in the future. You can bank on that. You may, in fact, get the leader that you are taunting his base for not having elected. You probably don't want that. Start taking the reality of this nation a little more seriously to avoid that outcome.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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no one needed to think he was a good choice. they just needed to think he was a better choice than hillary. outside of the nut jobs in CA, the country did.
Let us not forget that Hillary won the popular vote by almost 3M. So no, a strategic electoral win (assisted by Russian interference and Trumps criminal counterparts) placed him in office, not “the country.”
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