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Old 11-29-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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"Perjury trap" is a word created by the far right to make excuses for Mushroom Donny.

If you did nothing wrong, and tell the truth under oath, YOU ARE SAFE. It's that easy, if you're innocent.

If you DID do something wrong, and/or lied about it under oath, YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL.

How is that so hard to comprehend for Trump supporters? Because they know Trump probably lied and is in big trouble?
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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This will be interesting going forward, his admission to working on the Russian project will open the door to the Trump family.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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This will be interesting going forward, his admission to working on the Russian project will open the door to the Trump family.
Donald Trump is SO dumb, he doesn't even realize that.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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And they can prove anything they want with that. How do you PROVE that you misspoke? You can't so that means you MUST have lied on purpose. That's exactly what they did to Flynn. Comey says he didn't lie and Mueller says he did. Boom charged without proving anything. You don't have to prove a damn thing to charge someone with anything, you only need to prove it to get a conviction. Surprisingly none of these supposed lying cases went to trial because Mueller knows it wouldn't work, instead he uses trumped up further charges to threaten you with so you plead to something you really didn't do and get a light sentence AKA 14 DAYS IN JAIL!
The burden of proof is on the prosecutor to prove the lie was made knowingly and willfully. That is why your premise that someone can just get tripped up on a minor point and... ooops, its perjury(!) doesn't work in the real world. In other words, the prosecutor doesn't just have to show the defendant lied, he or she has to prove - beyond a reasonable doubt - that the Defendant knew he or she was lying at the time. Usually, this can only be achieved by proving that the falsity concerned something so important and/or that occurred so recently that no reasonable juror could believe that the defendant was unaware it was a lie at the time. A high bar indeed.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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We are supposed to learn right and wrong as children. Republicans must have learned that when Mommy asks you if you ate the cookies it is a perjury trap.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:37 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Precisely.

Some of these people aren't even worth responding too. There are quite a few posters here who have no interest in seeking the truth or debating factual information.

They log into C-D every morning just to defend Trump in any way they can and post as many fake news stories and youtube videos as they can to prove Trump is innocent and the "deep state" is real.

There's no helping them, as they are too far gone. All we can do is pray for them and hope God has mercy on them for embracing such a hateful and destructive man (Trump).
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So says the resident #fakenews pusher. You come here daily posting lie after lie after lie.
Relax, give the guy a break.

If little NeuteredParty couldn't lie, attack the messenger, and other such smears, he'd have nothing to say at all.

Gee, that would be terrible, wouldn't it?

Funniest part of his post here, is that he himself fits the description ("who have no interest in seeking the truth or debating factual information"), than any of the posters he's trying to smear. Too bad he's too busy making up attacks, to ever notice the irony.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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It feels like reality is starting to set in for Trump supporters who thought Michael Cohen wasn't going to deal a big blow to Trump.

It's okay, folks. If you apologize for supporting Trump and acknowledge/admit that you were duped by a con man, most Americans will forgive you.

Cohen is going to play a ginormous role in Donald Trump going down, and that is why Trump has been attacking him relentlessly over the last 12 hours.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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Still nothing lol

The dems fall for it every week. The press gets them all worked up on anything that starts with the letter R and ends with an A

as usual...this isn’t going anywhere, the media just knows how to work it’s audience into a hysteria before the weekend.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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If you always tell the truth, there is no such thing as a perjury trap.
If you are PERFECT, and never make a mistake, there is no such thing as a perjury trap.


Scooter Libby was charged with not being perfect: Telling investigators twice the correct account of his meeting, and once getting it wrong. For this his life was basically ruined.

Is Michael Cohen now getting the same treatment from the same "usual suspects"?
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Most likely. He probably got a date wrong or something. Told Congress 2016 then told Mueller 2017. That's how little of a thing they can use to trap you into perjury.
Except for it's not...
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