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Originally Posted by Dbones
It's all a ruse dude. It's an illegal investigation that has turned up next to nothing at all. George P. only got TWO WEEKS in jail. Some criminal there. Carter Page is still free and on the news networks. If he was a real spy he'd be locked up. This is all fake garbage and when those docs are released the world will see how corrupt the DNC and this Special Counsel really is.
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Russian inteference and interactions between the Trump campaign and Moscow were first picked up from late 2015 until the summer of 2016, during routine surveillance of Russians, by several countries including the UK, Germany, Estonia, Poland, and Australia (and possibly the Netherlands and France) who relayed their discoveries and concerns to the U.S.
The U.S Intelligence agencies cannot surveil U.S. citizens without a warrant, so the U.S. was slow to recognise a pattern itself. However other foreign intelligence agencies outside the US had been watching Russian spy targets, and started to become aware of their involvement with the Trump Administration.
According to The Guardian, because the materials were highly sensitive, GCHQ director Robert Hannigan contacted CIA director John O. Brennan directly to give him information.
Concerned, Brennan gave classified briefings to U.S. Congress' "Gang of Eight" during late August and September 2016.
Referring only to intelligence allies and not to specific sources, Brennan told the Gang of Eight that he had received evidence that Russia might be trying to help Trump win the U.S. election.
It was later revealed that the CIA had obtained further intelligence from "sources inside the Russian government".
On May 23, 2017, Brennan stated to the House Intelligence Committee that Russia "brazenly interfered" in the 2016 U.and that he haswarned his counterpart at Russia's FSB intelligence agency, Alexander Bortnikov, against further interference.
The question is not whether Russia interferred as that's already been established, the question is how much did Trump and his administration know about this, and whther they in anyway helped the Russians or colluded with them.
In terms of George Papadopoulos he was bragging about the fact that he had all this dirt from Russia and had a meeting with Russian operaties to an Australian diplomat weho later informed US Intelligence, and Papadopoulos has admitted lying to the FBI. Papadopoulos has however offered to know hep the FBI hence the plea barganing and light sentence, indeed the light sentence may indicate that he's willing to give them everything he knows and whether Trump was directly involved. Then you have wikileaks leaking the Clinton emails and visits by the Trump administration to Julian Assange in London, as well as the Cambridge Analytica scandal, based from an office also in London.
Meanwhile Mueller is building up an increasing number of informants and witnesses and is following money trials across the world and it is through people like Mannafort turning informant that Mueller will be able to put moe of the pieces together. Whilst Trump's constant evasion, sackings discrediting and taking peoples security clearance away might in the end see Mueller look more and more closely in to a case of obstructing justice rather than just collusion. The final straw may be if he tries to sack Sessions and indeed tries to stop the Special Counsel Investigation or to get rid of Mueller.
Although collusion is just one of a number of investigations, you also have cases in relation to Trump's business activities, hush payments, the Steele Dossier and defamation cases by numerous women, to name but a few of the Trump administrations current problems. Whilst many claim it is the Southern District of New York Investigation which may be most harmful to the Trump Administration rather than Mueller.
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