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Old 04-21-2010, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Small Town USA Population about 15,000
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Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte View Post
I have a few question to those who are scared of Black men: What is the point of being scared of Black men, and making a snap judgment?
I might sound selfish with this question, but for me, it hits home: How is someone else being scared of Black men suppose to help ME? How is it a benefit to me I'm Black and I am not mugging people. When someone is scared of me because of my skin color or makes a snap judgment about me, that targets ME. It opens me up to any kind of behavior related to it.
You know the op should have put just any man, not of color, because you are lumped into a sterotype of a black man and that is not fair to you, so you need to go out and set people straight and be nice to those who are not nice to you.

 
Old 04-21-2010, 05:22 PM
 
Location: east of my daughter-north of my son
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There's nothing worse than a person being afraid of their own race.
I'm somewhat confused. I am white and at times have been afraid of white men. So I shouldn't be?
 
Old 04-21-2010, 05:24 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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I'm somewhat confused. I am white and at times have been afraid of white men. So I shouldn't be?
I'm sure you feared them for reasons other than the fact that they were white.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte View Post
I have a few question to those who are scared of Black men: What is the point of being scared of Black men, and making a snap judgment?
I might sound selfish with this question, but for me, it hits home: How is someone else being scared of Black men suppose to help ME? How is it a benefit to me I'm Black and I am not mugging people. When someone is scared of me because of my skin color or makes a snap judgment about me, that targets ME. It opens me up to any kind of behavior related to it.
That's the thing. People who stereotype us couldn't care less about "helping" you or I. Rather, they expect us to take responsibility for bad deeds done by people completely unrelated to us but who happen to look like us.

As good, upstanding black men, there is no reason we should allow ourselves to be subjected to maltreatment just because the other person wants us to feel guilty about things over which we have no control.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 06:53 PM
 
Location: east of my daughter-north of my son
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As a woman I must say that when I am alone like in a mall parking lot or just out walking, if I see any man no matter what age by himself I put my guard up. If I'm with my husband or friends, then no. No matter what color.

I also will say that as I have gotten older I tend to more worried about groups of teens or young people. Boys and girls. I've just witnessed and heard of too many things happening to be comfortable whether it's justified or not.
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I'm somewhat confused. I am white and at times have been afraid of white men. So I shouldn't be?
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I'm sure you feared them for reasons other than the fact that they were white.
You are correct on that. I was thinking of the first post when I wrote the second one. Sorry about that.

How about I work with kids all day and my mind is mush therefore my one post didn't make sense??

And yup that is just one dumb statement on it's own. Ugh.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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That's the thing. People who stereotype us couldn't care less about "helping" you or I. Rather, they expect us to take responsibility for bad deeds done by people completely unrelated to us but who happen to look like us.

As good, upstanding black men, there is no reason we should allow ourselves to be subjected to maltreatment just because the other person wants us to feel guilty about things over which we have no control.
No, you shouldn't. The solution, of course, will come when people start to take each person as individuals, one at a time, Some do that already. Some still don't but may change as they get to know people one on one. Still others will hang on to their prejudices forever.

You can't know which of these people you are encountering, however, until you get to know them as individuals in turn.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 07:52 PM
 
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I am not talking about the black men you work with I am talking about the young black men you see in public and don't know?

If so why are you scared?



Be honest.
I'm not scared of blacks per se. Those young black men you're talking about-- they come in white and hispanic colors too. I'm disturbed by the level of violent thoughts & behaviors going on in youth. Young girls are no exception. Seems every single one of them was raised by Jerry Springer guests. Concerned parents wanting censorship standards because of excess gratuitous sex and violence in film and music-- some studies concluded that it wasn't medias fault, but tell me if you see a difference now relative to 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000... youth has progressively become more violent, less respectful, more contemptuous of society. Now we have children hypersexualized to seek attention, and boys thinking the definition of real manhood= violent/ exploitive. Children get more input from media than their own parents because those parents are working themselves to death trying to keep their heads above water financially.

Do I fear any of them? They don't count on the fact this little old lady is a vet trained in self defense and exercising a 2nd amendment right. Don't you find it sad that women cannot afford the luxury of fully being feminine because men refuse to be men? Consider the fact that women coming fully into their own authority in their lives has confused men into believing that their role was unneccessary and now they can put their heels up and ride on a womans back. This is the world we're giving children, both genders entitling themselves to treat the other like a beast of burden, and that attitude/ game playing came at the expense of children. I'm called feminazi because I see work neglected by men and pick it up. It's not as if I didn't give credit to the men who taught me how, and irony- the finer men cut of that cloth are the very ones our culture spits upon. I'm a vapid narcissist for paying my own way in life refusing to bring 20 children into the world with 20 sperm donors. Man O man, when WILL you boys get off the porn and grow the heck up?

NOW black women, do you see that white women have the exact same problems in a 'mans world' (guess what, we're the majority!)? The difference between you and I is that you've internalized self hatred based on vague race identity AND gender. You still don't want to believe you're a citizen of our country. You're acting like an illegal alien riding on the margins of society. Stand up with love and refuse to play their game.

I refuse to be intimidated by any of this crap. That false bravado is a mask of false self esteem in men, emulated by children not wanting to feel powerless or victimized. They might be dangerous, but they're emotionally weak and are out of touch with reality on many levels. I see them as destructive mental patients tossed on the streets to cannibalize themselves and everything in their wake. How are women supposed to help them break free of this madness? Seems to me Coretta Scott King had it going on.

Down the road from me in the flats of Charleston WV is a neighbor originating from pits or phili- can't remember which. He's one heck of a father- came here to get his kids away from the mean streets of the city. Should it matter that he's black? His boys earn their allowance by helping me with my garden chores and such. I don't actually need their help because I'm able bodied. They're one of the few neighborhood kids showing me a sense of industry and gumption, and I think that positive behavior ought to be rewarded positively. One has been promoted early because his grades are excellent, and I have high hopes for him. Now consider what this recent news means to this dad, and to this boy whose classmate is now dead.
UPDATE: Shooting of 14-Year-Old Boy Leads Residents to Question Police Presence

Consider that it's not just a knife to their heart, but a knife to the heart of all residents here whose sensibilities are regularly assaulted by 'outsiders' passing by leaving a mess in their wake for centuries. So much for the tacky stereotypes of appalachian folks dismissed as irrelevant Americans on comedy central and by institutional voice of elected officials. There's a knife in my heart too and those who presume I don't feel it because I'm white are racists.

In other words, in an attempt to resist anguish and disdain for oppression, violence, irrational hatred, they've embodied the very behavior they accuse, dubbed it 'black culture', perpetuating the lead of abusive patriarchal modeling. That is NOT what a real man is, and this garbage Cosby references is NOT what black identity is- it's simply rebranded exploitation, because if you can own the masters coat, you can trick yourselves into justifying abusing your own people (with your own hand) present tense. How can you stand there and blame me for convicting a 16yr old shooting a 14yr old black boy? Do y'all listen to yourselves?

Forget race loyalty, that's BS. Forget war on anything, that's BS too. You're only strong when you're grounded in the truth and love, the very thing your community has been beating out of black women unmercifully. Same thing white men do to white women. Same thing latino men do to latino women. Our culture is very far away from honor thy mother AND father, growing worse every day we fail to live honorably leading by example.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 07:52 PM
 
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No, you shouldn't. The solution, of course, will come when people start to take each person as individuals, one at a time, Some do that already. Some still don't but may change as they get to know people one on one. Still others will hang on to their prejudices forever.

Stereotyping could save your life. The "I don't stereotype, I love diversity" bunch are the same ones who wouldn't live in a majority Black area.

Well, I do. And stereotyping will save your life.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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I'm somewhat confused. I am white and at times have been afraid of white men. So I shouldn't be?
It depends on the situation.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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Stereotyping could save your life. The "I don't stereotype, I love diversity" bunch are the same ones who wouldn't live in a majority Black area.

Well, I do. And stereotyping will save your life.
to bad this is wrong. so basically innocent young black men minding their busness should be harassed by cops just because they are walking home correct? lol sometimes you must thank god people like this arent on top in this country.
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