What if the shoe is on the other side and a female is accused, some 40 years later

[phantompilot]

It doesn't even have to be a female. Look how they are smearing the woman who accused the Muslim in Congress of sexual misconduct. They won't touch him just because he's one of their "protected classes" that they use to divide the country with.

They can't lose a tool of division, so they protect the accused, whilst smearing the accuser.

Kavanaugh should come out as gay. That would make their heads explode.

[j7r6s]

Originally Posted by lkb0714

Asia Argento is not trying to be a Supreme Court justice, is not accused by nearly as credible a source, and is still facing a huge backlash that is definitely effecting her career. So yes, many people are believing the young man accusing her.

That was recent, there was a photo of her naked in bed with the minor, who her attorney admitted she had sex with and to whom she paid six figures of hush money to keep it quiet. How on Earth is that less credible than a claim with absolutely no evidence made more than three decades after the (alleged) fact?

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian

Accusers are believed automatically if they accuse a Republican, male or female, and they are automatically disbelieved if they accuse a Democrat, male or female.

/discussion

That's not true.
It's much more a male/female problem than a political one. Male politicians of either party have been accused in equal measure. It's very easy ammunition for both parties.

What's happening now, however, is a large and growing movement among women that enough is enough, and they're not going to put up with it anymore.

27 years ago when Justice Thomas was confronted by Anita Hill, she faced a roomful of only men when she testified, and her testimony never stood a chance. Her humiliation didn't change a thing, and Thomas cruised on to his confirmation by the committee as smoothly as it had progressed before Hill walked in the door.

But that was 25 years ago, when our society still accepted male dominance and all the hanky-panky that came with it.

In 1991, Bill Cosby was still one of the most popular men in United States, admired by all as a funny guy
and a great father figure. Matt Lauer was a rising morning star, and every door in Washington was open to Charlie Rose. Every movie that came out that Harvey Weinstein produced was a sure-fire hit. Plenty of political rocks were being thrown at Bill Clinton, but others had been hit by similar stones and it didn't stop them. They didn't stop Bill either.

That's all changed these days. If a politician wants to keep his job, he had better have led a saint's life or his career will come to a sudden end. And will likely be replaced by a woman when it does.

If Brett Kavanaugh is wise, he'll withdraw his nomination for the good of his President and the President's party.

The Republicans will need every female vote they can get to hold their position in Congress, and women do not ever forget a sexual assault. Ever.
Assaulting one woman is assaulting them all. Sexual assault is what all women fear the most in their lives.

It is possible that the Kavanaugh nomination can be jammed through into confirmation. But is one Justice worth the damage it will do to the GOP? Is another Justice with a blackened reputation really worth the lasting damage it will bring to the Supreme Court?

Those are the questions that bear consideration.

This is part of a huge shift in our society. Sexual predation occupies all our minds now all the time. We all worry about our spouses, our children and our families, fearing sexual abuse.
If someone's daughter is abused, her father never shrugs it off. He would rather kill the perp than let him go free. Mothers call for lynchings. Parents hover over their children daily, never letting them out of eyesight.

This was a long time coming. It's not going to suddenly disappear for one man, nor for one party's temporary advantage.

Kavanaugh may be innocent, but it doesn't matter if he is or not. He's toast. There's some other judge who has a cleaner past who will sail through the process.

The Republicans are only wasting time and losing voters if they continue to stick with Kavanaugh now. Every day this fight continues is another day closer to the election.
Kavanaugh will be forgotten in November if he leaves now, but if he stays, millions of women are going to remember what's happening very clearly, and will express their thoughts on their ballots.

And, in time, some female will be in Kavanaugh's spot, facing the same charges. Those who have the power to abuse another use the power in both sexes. How many female teachers are in jail now for sexual abuse?

[Volobjectitarian]

Originally Posted by G Grasshopper

Your persecution complex is showing. Lots of Democrats have also lost their jobs/status due to people coming forward with claims of sexual harassment or abuse.

Never said people didn't eventually get busted. My claim is about the initial "believability" of the accuser and accused. In the current culture, who the Democrats/liberals/media LIKE determines that initial believability. Period.

They will, after mountains of evidence (i.e., the Jackie rape hoax at UVA, the Duke lacrosse hoax, Mattress Girl at Columbia, etc) grudgingly admit they were wrong, print a 4 point font retraction on page A-67 or something, but until an avalanche of fact is heaped on their heads, if they like the person, they believe them, and if they don't like them, they don't, and the media + pop culture take all their cues from who the Democrats/liberals like.

And I am not feeling persecuted. I have been wrongly accused of something in my past because someone was trying to blame shift her way out of formal discipline in the military, and I made a convenient target, but in the end, justice prevailed and I was cleared of her false nonsense. But that was like 25 years ago an who cares?

Pointing out how the cultural narrative automatically sides with liberals, when >90% of all media is liberal or liberal allied is not exactly news nor me being super smart, just believing my own lying eyes.

[TinaTwo]

Good question. Particularly if the accuser was in his 40’s or 50’s as well as the accused. Not like the Asia thing with the young kid.