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I give up! I do not have the time or energy to educate you about Ohio history, and, yes, I know it well as a seventh generation Ohioan who's spent the last twenty years studying it. Feel free to cling to your ignorance. Moving on.
Yeah you should give up, since you don't really know anything real about my city. There were no foreign language speakers in public, no Spanish speaking and no mestizos until recently. As far as credentials I can trace my heritage here to at least the early 1800s or when it became a state.
Whoopee! Businesses are pandering to illegal alien Spanish speakers and the other Hispanics who want to feel all warm and fuzzy being catered to in Spanish even though they know English. Anything for a buck, right? Yes, there are several Spanish channels I have to sift through to get to an English station now. Their biggest market isn't even Latinos. White and black Americans combined way outnumber the Hispanics in this country. I guess English speakers are just chopped liver to them now.
There was a large department store in a decent area near where I live that catered to Spanish speakers alone. All of their ads over the intercom were in Spanish only. WTH? They went out of business and good riddance I say.
Over the air television and radio should be ENGLISH ONLY.
Newspapers etc, fine, I don't care, but there is a limited amount of signal for over the air, and the Spanish ones continue to take more of it.
Oh, don't backtrack now, Oldglory. You made it quite clear that I would be in the wrong to speak French with my daughter outside of our home, even though we are native born U.S. citizens with English as a first language because, apparently, it's rude. But why is it rude?
I'm not back tracking. I was merely denoting the difference between a quiet out of earshot conversation and speaking loud in a foreign language where everyone can hear it which is rude. The latter is usually the case. I still think that one should speak English in public if they know how to. You still never answered why you have to speak with your daughter in French outside the home in order to perfect it.
I'm not back tracking. I was merely denoting the difference between a quiet out of earshot conversation and speaking loud in a foreign language where everyone can hear it which is rude. The latter is usually the case. I still think that one should speak English in public if they know how to. You still never answered why you have to speak with your daughter in French outside the home in order to perfect it.
It was a hypothetical situation, but I'd do it because speaking 100% of the time in a foreign language builds fluency quickly. The goal is to stop translating in your head and begin thinking in the language you're seeking to master. The way to do that is complete immersion.
I must ask, though; do you also consider it rude when English speakers use loud voices in public, or is it just foreign language speakers that offend you?
Over the air television and radio should be ENGLISH ONLY.
Newspapers etc, fine, I don't care, but there is a limited amount of signal for over the air, and the Spanish ones continue to take more of it.
Maybe it's because there's an audience for it and the ads sell. So what? It's called the free market. Capitalism. Basic Economics 101.
I used to work in satellte communications, and the digitalization of broadcasts over the past decades has expanded the quantity of bandwidth available for media. If you don't like it, don't watch! Watch what you like. What others consume is their own business. Capish?
Go lose your head over Univision and Telemundo, then. As long as there's an audience for it, there will be one. In any case, trying to be the culture police is a losing proposition.
I didn't quite say that. There are many places in America that had been entirely white English speaking and a percentage black American for over a century and no one for most of a century were expose to foreign speakers until recently. I'm sure there were some European immigrants way in the past who were say German speakers but they were discrete and picked up English quick as did their children.
In the US? No, German language & German-oriented cultural events - newspapers, radio, plays, music, singing, oom-pah bands, churches, classes in parochial & public schools using German as the language of instruction - they all prospered up until 1914 & 1939. The combination of WWI & WWII, plus the Red Scare agitation & closing down on unions, Socialists, Communists, & the foreign-born in general - severely affected the use of German in the US in public. More or less what's being agitated for here - that any foreign language should be kept strictly @ home.
Over the air television and radio should be ENGLISH ONLY.
Newspapers etc, fine, I don't care, but there is a limited amount of signal for over the air, and the Spanish ones continue to take more of it.
Commercial TV & radio is about ad revenue. If Hispanic families are larger on average than non-Hispanic families, then Hispanic families buy more groceries, personal care items, clothes, furniture, media, fast food, & on & on. If the choice is pursuing a growing market or a shrinking market, the people with product to move will always pursue the growing market.
It's nothing personal. It's just straightforward statistical analysis - & pursuing the biggest bang for the buck.
It may not be our business and there's no law against speaking a foreign language in public but that's not the point. IMO, if you know English it is rude and arrogant to not speak it in public. It's usually quite loud also and makes one feel like they are living in a foreign country. Our neighborhoods are changing due to too much legal and illegal immigration in a short period of time. Should we just embrace that as "change"? I don't consider that as being narrow minded. There are some very valid points to be made. Unfortunately, liberals can never see or understand anyone else's point of view but their own.
Oh, I think we see and understand you pretty well. We just don't AGREE.
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I was merely denoting the difference between a quiet out of earshot conversation and speaking loud in a foreign language where everyone can hear it which is rude. The latter is usually the case. I still think that one should speak English in public if they know how to. You still never answered why you have to speak with your daughter in French outside the home in order to perfect it.
Discriminating?
