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Old 09-27-2018, 01:17 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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I laugh at the way you liberals always have to pull the race card when anyone says anything positive about the 50's. Was their racism? Sure there was but that has nothing to do with the core family values that existed back then and were superior to those of today.
The ironic thing is that you CAN still have those values. You just can't FORCE everyone else to live by them.

 
Old 09-27-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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The ironic thing is that you CAN still have those values. You just can't FORCE everyone else to live by them.

Who's forcing anyone? When you try to lead a decent life and the great feeling you had about family life back then it's very disheartening to see the opposite going on around you. We are in moral decay today.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 02:16 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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We are in moral decay today.
I assume you only mean legal gay marriage and legal abortion. Legalizing marijuana may be a part of that as well. You surely don't mean infidelity, sexual assault, paying hush money to porn stars, siding with dictators and authoritarians against our allies, promoting racial division, or anything like that given your support of people like Brett Kavannaugh, Roy Moore, and Donald Trump.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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Southern black families were no different.


Remember the Tina Turner story "What's love got to do with it?". Listen to Ike Turner's side of the story:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPNEEm1vRGc




Quote:
lady: "You admit that you have slapped Tina before, but why Ike?"

Ike: "She would be walking around looking sad with her lip dropped, and I kept asking her, 'what is the matter with you'? ...til one day 'Slap'
He slapped the frown off Tina's face and didn't think he was doing wrong.


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Ike: "I didn't do no more to Tina than I wouldn't want somebody doing to my mother."
Listen to this. He wouldn't mind somebody doing this to his mother. This wasn't just a story about Ike. This is indicative of the culture that he came from in the 50s.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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Contrary to the narrative, everyone had the same rights in the 1950s too.
Actually, if this was so, then Jim Crow wouldn't have existed back in the 50s. Housing discrimination wouldn't have existed back then. Sundown laws prohibiting people of certain races in a town would not been enforceable. You are the one lying right now. I can come up with things refuting your lies. However, you haven't been able to refute me.

And you never answered what I was asking. What do YOU really want?
 
Old 09-27-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Southern black families were no different.
Remember the Tina Turner story "What's love got to do with it?". Listen to Ike Turner's side of the story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPNEEm1vRGc
He slapped the frown off Tina's face and didn't think he was doing wrong.
Listen to this. He wouldn't mind somebody doing this to his mother. This wasn't just a story about Ike. This is indicative of the culture that he came from in the 50s.
By culture, you just mean the way he was raised. Right?
 
Old 09-27-2018, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It just so happens that this is exactly the reason so many people want to return to the 1950s. They want to live in an era where a white Christian men can treat ethnic minorities, gays, non-Christians, women, etc like garbage and it be socially acceptable. That is the core reason why Donald Trump is popular.
Speaking of garbage, your post is the reason we have Donald Trump. Who is a dishonest president but not as bad as Hillary would have been.

btw good to see your racism out in the open again. Doesn't hurt for others to see where your heart is.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That's not true. Black people were legally excluded in the 50s.
That's what a progressive government does. Gets involved when no ones rights have been violated, thinking they were being moral when in fact government is the opposite of moral.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 03:03 PM
 
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We didn't have to pass any of that legislation. Much of it was based on the desire to achieve equal outcomes, which can't be achieved, and were not of a sound basis and were overreaching.
Actually it was needed. When people were being denied their right to vote, were being told by law "you can't live here because you're Black", when segregated schools are the LAW OF THE LAND, when there are local laws literally making it impossible to register to vote, this is just a small part of why that legislation is necessary. The truth is, you wish that legislation had not been passed because you desire the Jim Crow days. Of course, that is just my opinion. I need confirmation, something I don't think I will get from you.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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By culture, you just mean the way he was raised. Right?

It's the way a lot of people were raised. Ike was far from the only person who regularly beat his wife and thought nothing of it. There's other famous examples:

James Brown beat his wife and bloodied her face in front of his little girl.

Miles Davis terrorized his wives - had them running for their lives.

This is something that was normal back then. There were more intact black families in the 50s/60s, but that's not indicative of a more wholesome culture.
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