The Saga Continues: Judge Kavanaugh confirmation/allegations/etc. continued...MERGED (Congress, interview)

[exm]

Originally Posted by mountainrose

Are they voting at 10 or not?

Someone mentioned 10:30


Remember this is a procedural vote. The actual vote is tomorrow.

[photogal9]

Originally Posted by LCL111

how many nails does one coffin need??

Enough to spell out "DR FRAUD"

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by dashrendar4454

Women's March
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@womensmarch

Kavanaugh was angry, vindictive, and hostile during his testimony about Dr. Blasey Ford’s allegations of attempted rape. We fully believe a man this belligerent and entitled is capable of sexual assault.

Oh, that's hilarious.

Accuse someone of being a serial gang rapist with no evidence and then when then take offense.....you say, "A ha! See, they're angry this proves their guilt!". That's like a Monty Python witch trial right there.

This one started out as a hail mary on very little to derail a nomination or at least to try to woo or energize women voters. Basic common-sense political move either side would try. Even the demand for the FBI, I get that. But now, I think that they may have energized the republicans and alienated more moderates than they had previously won over.

[loves2read]

Originally Posted by Rakin

No it's more like the 1800's where the Democrats hung Black men from trees based on false accusations
They evolved and 150 years later are lynching white men based on no evidence.

Emmett Till and Brett Kavanaugh have a lot in common the way they were both treated by Democrats.

NEVER equate what happened to Emmett Till with Bret Kavanaugh.

Your equating those two circumstances shows you have so little historical knowledge and empathy that your perspective is set in granite.

Brett Kavanaugh could have been one of the men in that lynch mob...
He is a "victim" that has suffered no harm because apparently he is going to get what he wants and the President wanted
He will likely be voted onto the Court...and laugh at how he has manipulated the American public and the political system...
The "emotional" toll likely won't last any longer than the vote...

The GOP of the South now are the sons and daughters of those who were voting Democratic after the Civil War simply because Lincoln was a Republican...
They turned when LBJ forced the Civil Rights Legislation through and made the laws of the US elevate African Americans to an equal footing -- at least in law--with whites...so the South lost its weighty ability to abuse blacks on almost every level--but we know from all manner of means that racism was not eradicated in the South or in other parts of the country--and we can see that it has come home to roost in the GOP w/Trump

The South turned GOP because of its refusal to be part of a party that would espouse Civil Rights...
And that still seems to be one of the high points of voting GOP---to oppose equal rights for any minority--
Be it racially based or gender based or religious based...

Emmitt Till has more in common with Christine Ford any day of the week than Brett Kavanaugh--
The reason Kavanaugh is claiming to be a victim is because that appeals to the bunkered point of view of the GOP...especially the males who always feel threatened by women who want equality...
It was a very effective POLITICAL point of view....it strikes a lot of notes with the base...

Kavanaugh has come out now with a sop to the people who took issue with his partisan, hysterical rant on Thursday...
If he were HONEST he wouldn't have to do that--he would stand by what he had said if he really felt he was a victim...I guess that makes him a real Snowflake...but anything to get that job...
It is just more protective political strategy

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by Oldhag1

No one, and I do mean no one, is required to provide links or proof of their comments.

This is a forum, not a news organization, school, or other professional setting. People are entitled to their opinions and do not need to provide you proof. If you think they are wrong and want everyone to know that YOU provide the proof, whether it is links or something else.

It does lend to their credibility though. I've had many arguments with people who refused to use sources and their information was most often incorrect (fake).

Opinions are fine, but if you are stating something as fact, it helps to have a source. Or you won't be seen as credible. Dr. Ford is a great example. She had her facts with nothing to support those facts.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by exm

Someone mentioned 10:30


Remember this is a procedural vote. The actual vote is tomorrow.

Regardless of when the actual vote is, we all know what the end result is on this.

The local grocery stores will be stripped bare of Kleenex and Chardonnay....

[Corrie22]

A woman that Christine Blasey Ford claimed was at the party where Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh allegedly assaulted her circa 1982 told FBI investigators that Dr. Ford's "allies" tried to pressure her to change her story about what happened.

Leland Keyser told investigators that Ford's friend, former FBI agent Monica McLean, had urged her to alter the original statement that she gave about not remembering any such party and not knowing Kavanaugh, The Wall Street Journal reported.

The Journal noted that Keyser's statement to the FBI offered "a glimpse into how Dr. Ford’s allies were working behind the scenes to lobby old classmates to bolster their versions of the alleged incident."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36744...-ryan-saavedra

[Scooby Snacks]

What a surprise. An "investigation" hell bent on acquittal didn't discover anything of value The investigation was run by Republicans in which the Republican president muzzled the FBI and directed who and what could be investigated and the length of time the investigation could last. They then review these secret documents that no one else can see to determine his guilt or innocence. These same Republicans who want to confirm Kavanaugh refuse to condemn his shameless partisan and dishonest behavior during questioning. Why? Because they are determined to appoint Kavanaugh at whatever cost. So Repubs, you can cheer and crow about your victory all you want, but don't pretend this investigation was complete and objective, because it certainly was not that.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by jojajn

I thought you people didn't run on emotion. The right runs only on emotion, mostly anger.

"You people" huh? You mean the people that expect, no, DEMAND some actual proof and evidence of something before convicting someone of a serious crime?

You mean those people that don't buy into the current B.S. that a person with 2 boobs and who squats to pee MUST be believed if she utters a claim of assault with NO proof and the skimpiest of details?

You mean the reasonable people who look at a person and understand that those people are most likely not the same people that they were in High School and that people can and do change over the span of 30 + years.

You mean those people who are not rabid ideologues and refuse to destroy someone wholly based on what political party they belong to?

You mean those people who expect Congresscritters to be held to the same exact standards they're demanding others be held to (which would clear out about half or more of Congress btw).

Well, if those are the people you're talking about count me in.

Now if you are happy belonging to the group who thinks those Congresscritters who are currently attempting to destroy Kavanaugh while THEIR house is dirty as hell or are as guilty if not more of what they're accusing him of then have at it, you're welcome to 'em...

[dashrendar4454]

I would still like to know WHY the Dems believe Ford other than that she is accusing a conservative SCOTUS pick by Trump