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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 14 6.25%
58-60 7 3.13%
55-57 13 5.80%
50-54 144 64.29%
49 or less 46 20.54%
Voters: 224. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-03-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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Duh! When a republican gives an anonymous source, it's "proof". When a lib gives an open testimony, has it corroborated by many, but then has a bitter ex-bf refute her, then it's evidence that she's a liar. It helps them to ignore that Kavenaugh wrote in his OWN CALENDAR that he's lying.

Try to keep up, these people like "plain talk". Truth is not manditory though.
So Trump Republicans hid and dug up an ex boyfriend of a traumatized woman..but could nt find time to interview her further or interview the line of Kavenaugh victims waiting outside their door.

 
Old 10-03-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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Flake on whether Trump's attacks on Ford affect his thinking on Kavanaugh vote. "You can't blame other people for what the president says." He downplayed concerns Kavanaugh misled Judiciary about his drinking, and said FBI should just look into Ford and Debbie Ramirez allegations pic.twitter.com/YFNrJPkfQT

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) October 3, 2018







Trump didn't attack Ford....He questions her allegations just like Prosecutor Mitchell has in her report and millions of people.


Democrats can question Kanavaugh and that is acceptable....Trump questions Ford's allegations and all of the sudden it's an attack on all Sexual crime victims of the world.


What a joke!




Trump believes his nominee is being attacked unfairly by the Democrats and the media and Trump have the balls to fight and defend his nominee unlike lots of Republicans who are afraid to question Ford because of the media.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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So Trump Republicans hid and dug up an ex boyfriend of a traumatized woman..but could nt find time to interview her further or interview the line of Kavenaugh victims waiting outside their door.



lay off the crack pipe.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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Fords life could now be in danger. She is a witness to the dirty politics behind the scenes the Democrats have pulled to bring her story forward. The Dems are not going to want her talking to the Media once this is all over.

She should be concerned about her future and it's not from any conservative. She should go into witness protection once she gives all her info to an extensive FBI investigation.

There's a lot of rich Dem money that will not want her talking. She should be very scared for her personal safety.
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Seems Trump has plenty more reason to off her.
Kavanaugh is about to join the Supreme Court, and Ford has done Trump a huge favor by exposing the selfishness of Democrat senators who seeked to use Ford in multiple ways, making it very hard for Democrats to win the midterms.
Its also brought attention to Blumental and Booker's shady pasts.
Trump's base has been ignited more than ever, and independents have been put off the Dems.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 01:53 PM
 
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Margot Cleveland at USA Today believes that Christine Ford has a major credibility problem:

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Christine Blasey Ford Has a Major Credibility Problem

When Christine Blasey Ford testified last week before the Judiciary Committee, America witnessed a haunted woman recounting a devastating trauma. But putting aside Ford’s emotional performance and focusing instead on the professor’s testimony reveals numerous inconsistencies in her narrative that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her.

As a sex-crimes prosecutor, Republican questioner Rachel Mitchell is well-positioned to “know it when she sees it.” But rather than see Ford as a victim of sexual abuse by Kavanaugh, Mitchell saw her as a witness lacking in credibility. And this conclusion comes from an expert who knows that there are many reasons victims delay reporting sexual abuse. Mitchell also recognized that victims may legitimately not remember certain details related to an attack.

But the problem for Ford is not that she doesn’t remember everything: It is that everything she remembers changes at her convenience.

{more at the link}
 
Old 10-03-2018, 01:54 PM
 
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You think he didn’t know that was going to happen? The guy may not be the most intellectual person but he is as wily as a fox.
Right you are
 
Old 10-03-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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Default The subject I've been tryin to get to for 2 days

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500 law professors sign letter to Senate saying Kav does not have the judicial temperament to serve on the SCOTUS.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-500-...010208585.html

They are correct.

Letter full text: https://www.scribd.com/document/3899...0pm#from_embed
wowwy - Law "professors". My neighbor is a "law professor", he couldn't cut it as a lawyer and so he teaches at a small college. It really doesn't matter what a bunch of Proffessors say - it matters more what the ABA said and what Judge Kavanaugh's record is. Not a single one of these "He doesn't have Judicial Temperament whiners has cited a SINGLE Court case showing that .... and that is really all that counts when you have a 12 Year Record and 307 Opinions.

What are the Judicial Standards that the ABA uses for the Nomination to the Supreme Court?

NOMINATIONS TO THE SUPREME COURT
A. Evaluation Criteria
As with nominations to the lower courts, the Committee’s evaluation of nominees to the Supreme Court is directed solely to their professional qualifications: integrity, professional competence and judicial temperament.5 The Committee does not take into account the nominee’s philosophy, political affiliation or ideology. The Committee’s evaluation of a Supreme Court nominee is based on the premise that a Justice must possess exceptional professional qualifications.
A Supreme Court nominee should possess an especially high degree of legal scholarship, academic talent, analytical and writing abilities, and overall excellence. The ability to write clearly and persuasively, to harmonize a body of law, and to give meaningful guidance to trial courts, circuit courts and the bar for future cases are particularly important skills for a Supreme Court nominee. The significance, range and complexity of the issues considered, as well as the finality and nation-wide impact of the Supreme Court’s decisions, are among the factors that require exceptional ability.

To merit the Committee’s rating of “Well Qualified,” a Supreme Court nominee must be a preeminent member of the legal profession, have outstanding legal ability and exceptional breadth of experience, and meet the very highest standards of integrity, professional competence and judicial temperament. The rating of “Well Qualified” is reserved for those found to merit the Committee’s strongest affirmative endorsement.



What is Juditial Temperament

Judicial temperament describes a judge's general attitude toward the law, litigants and other judges. According to the American Bar Association, judicial temperament means that a judge exhibits "compassion, decisiveness, open-mindedness, sensitivity, courtesy, patience, freedom from bias and commitment to equal justice." Trends in State Courts, a project of the National Center for State Courts, described judicial temperament as "neutral, decisive, respectful, and composed."
Bar associations may perform judicial or judicial candidate evaluations, rating whether the individual is fit and qualified to serve as a judge. Oftentimes, judicial temperament is a category within these evaluations.


I tend to get really wordy - so here is the Cliff's Notes version of the ABA criteria and what "Judicial Temperament" mean to THEM in their evaluations and ratings.

It's not about throwing ice at a drunk. It's not about drinking beer in high school & college. It's not about defending yourself when under attack for something your didn't do - and you are not allowed to have a Lawyer to do it for you. A Judge is a human being, "Judicial Temperament" doesn't mean you can't be human when you are sitting in a Witness Chair and not the Judge's Chair in Court.

It is about Performance on the Bench as a Judge (provided you have a record as a Judge). It is about demeanor in Court to Lawyers & those before the Court, it is about EQUAL JUSTICE and fairness.

Judge Kavanaugh got the Highest rating the ABA allows because he has a 12 year Record of Good Judicial Temperament ...... Nothing has changed that.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 01:57 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Emma Green from the Atlantic Magazine tells it like it is. Conservative women are angry and are ready to lash out at Dems in the upcoming elections:
I've said this for the last week. Go to Facebook and read the feeds from women across the US. The are pizzed off at the way Democrats have handled this situation.

They may have been lax and not voted a few months ago but not now. Women will decide this next election. They are angry.

Most of the angry post on CD are by women. Bless them. They can say things were we men must hold our tongues.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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If you are a member of the Trump Party, 100%. The job is yours. Lying and sexual assault are now considered attributes in the party.

It's obvious that the left, including maybe you yourself, approve of falsely accusing someone of committing sexual assault, and then to simply continue publicly slandering them, regardless of the fact that you have no proof of their guilt whatsoever.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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"It's not even his drinking and carousing so much as it is the fact that he acted like such a total ass hole to the senatorial body while being interviewed for the highest legal position in the nation."


Actually, that hearing was not a "job interview". The interview portion had already been completed, and the vote was due to be taken when this "witch hunt" hearing was convened. This hearing was supposed to take place Monday, but was delayed due to that woman's supposed fear of flying. This hearing was to look into the 36 year old charges of sexual misconduct by the nominee.
I can not fault him for being angry and emotional. I do most certainly applaud him for not resorting to profanity as many men would have done. In fact, I, myself, have been known to not call a spade a spade, but instead to call it a G** d****d shovel!
Now that all the accusations seem to be disintegrating, IMO it is a shame that he probelby won't be able to file lawsuits for libel, slander, defamation of character, etc. and charges probably won't be filed by any law enforcement agency against those women for making false statements in sworn testimony. I think they all belong in jail!
It isnt over till it s over.
Kavenaugh doesnt realize this ?

Is he entitled to the seat ? Fair and impartial is not consistent with entitlement. Entitlement is consistent with arbitrary and capricousness in behavior. Not consistent nor desirable in a judge at any level.
Who would want to go before a known partisan Judge who gets emotional and angry when he has to consider others and has issues with the word "NO".

All the materials requested have not been provided. Why not.

Besides he s a double dirty dog for his abusive behavior towards MY Senator. They are there because those of us in the State of... cant fit in the room...they represent us. I can totally see him putting his hand over Ms Fords mouth to shut her up. He s trying to do the same to the representatives of the American People.

They did not abuse him. Their questions were expected. The president said go go go investigate. Why did nt he bash the President.

NONE of the accusations have disintegrated. Fake News.

They are being ignored. Not the same.
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