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View Poll Results: What do you think REALLY happened in the Mandalay Bay shooting?
The deep state carried it out to promote their politics/hurt Trump/push gun control 18 16.36%
It was an Islamic terrorist attack but was covered up by the deep state to prevent "Islamophobia" and opposition to unvetted refugees 14 12.73%
It was completely staged by actors 3 2.73%
A single person with no military/police training, no motive, and no history of mental illness really did do this for no reason 44 40.00%
Other 31 28.18%
Voters: 110. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-02-2018, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Occam's razor:
Well, if this guy didn't have a bunch of semiauto weapons and bumpstocks and all that ammo.........

He could have just used Occam's razor to go down in there and slash all those people to death.
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:58 AM
 
Location: North America
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I think there is more to it then we are being told. Hence the investigation hasn't been closed. I'm thinking he had help, they managed to escape and to not incite more fear, it is being kept quiet.
The investigation has been closed. In the same link: "Another brother, Bruce Paddock, told investigators that "Paddock was suffering from mental illness and was paranoid and delusional." A Las Vegas doctor, identified as Paddock's primary care physician, told investigators he believed the gunman may have had bipolar disorder but the he had refused medication to treat it. He also described Paddock's behavior as "odd.""

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/03/63550...o-motive-found

The guy was mentally unstable, just like a lot of other mass shooters. We will never know what his motivation was, that information died when he ate a bullet.
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Oh boy, this again?!

Look, the Vegas attack was not rocket science...

...a sociopathic, suicidal nutbag "whale" gambler with lots of money decided to go out with a bang so he bought a bunch of standard gun store crap, staked out potential targets and used his gambling connections to position himself right where he wanted to perpetrate his own massive murder-suicide massacre. Luckily Nutbags was not as smart as he thought he was because there are many other far more "efficient" ways to kill lots of people and Nutbag's "kill ratio" was pretty lousy considering his available resources and the fact that nobody was opposing him for some time before he chickened out and deaded himself.

Meanwhile, the Police response was sloppy, disorganized and slow (basically botched) and Vegas itself *might* have a corruption issue regarding the mega-casino corporations that ultimately make the existence of the city possible, muddying the waters as LV Corp. attempted to shelter the gambling industry and keep dollar bills flowing into the pockets of the town's powerful people.

That's all there is to it.



There is a sad truth about the world we live in:

Life is fragile.

Some human beings don't value human life.

There is no end to the "creative" ways one can come up with to end lots of human lives.

The fastest way to become a (albeit infamous) household name these days is to perpetrate a massacre... and finishing dead or alive with the #1 body-count of all-time is a sick game now in our culture.

Infamy is still notoriety and it's a common desire for folks to want to be remembered after they're gone.


As long as these things are all true, random mass murder attacks will continue.
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Well, if this guy didn't have a bunch of semiauto weapons and bumpstocks and all that ammo.........

He could have just used Occam's razor to go down in there and slash all those people to death.
...Or use his clean record and deep pockets to legally purchase a full-auto m60 machine gun, some spare barrels, 10K+ rounds of linked .308 hunting rounds and get 5 times as many kills.

...Or mix up a bunch of napalm and/or explosives using convenient online recipes, use his pilot's licence to rent or outright buy an airplane, load up the plane with said explody things and crash it into the middle of the concert killing thousands instead of only 60.

Or start/join an extremist cult built with and strong appreciation for "martyrdom", train some guys how to fly commercial airplanes and send them onto several flights with the plan to take over the planes and crash them into important buildings....

Taking away guns will not take away indiscriminate murder, nor will it make a corrupt culture pure. More gun control DOES NOT equal more safety... only less personal freedom.
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:48 AM
 
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The guy Paddock WAS deep state. I think he was into human trafficking and got pulled into this not knowing that his corpse would be there to pin the blame on when it was all said and done. The motive... gun control. Kill enough conservatives at a country concert and they hoped that would be the catalyst to get everyone on board. Shooting Scalise in DC was over the same exact gun control bill.
Once again the deep staters were left scratching their red baboons asses when people across both parties rallied against gun control.
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Old 10-02-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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“He was just a nutjob”

Well duh, anyone who shoots innocent people is a nutjob. But even nutjobs list out their grievances sometimes. Sometimes it’s a woman, bully, “the government,” police, religion, race, etc.

This guy simply didn’t leave any motive or reason for his nutjob actions. Obviously it’s not the end of the world seeing how senseless acts of violence are committed every day. The issue is this was a senseless act of violence that destroyed a lot of lives and we may never know exactly why.
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Old 10-02-2018, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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The guy Paddock WAS deep state. I think he was into human trafficking and got pulled into this not knowing that his corpse would be there to pin the blame on when it was all said and done. The motive... gun control. Kill enough conservatives at a country concert and they hoped that would be the catalyst to get everyone on board. Shooting Scalise in DC was over the same exact gun control bill.
Once again the deep staters were left scratching their red baboons asses when people across both parties rallied against gun control.
What a crappy plan if it was true. I'm afraid the Deep State is a little bit ahead of you and the conspiracy theorists on "people control" however.

The best way to control Indians isn't to try to take away their bows and arrows... it's to give them guns... also alcohol and maybe some biohazard-laced blankets, then sit back and let them critically weaken themselves.

Then, after they're weak you swoop in with better guns and take away the Indian's ability to remain independent and self-sustainable.

Our sporting ARs are not gonna be worth much when the drones and armored robots swoop in to deliver our "Universal Basic Income" ID chips, herd us into high-density living situations and plug us into social media and later on make mind altering drugs widely available and hook us into direct brain interface VR "worlds"... just like trade muskets and a few Winchesters later on did little to save the Indians.

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Old 10-02-2018, 12:29 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Laura Loomer has the most comprehensive reporting about Las Vegas.


https://www.lauraloomer.us/
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Old 10-02-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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He just went bonkers and started shooting. It's happened before but fortunately these kind of situations don't go down very often. The real story here is the lack of security in many Vegas hotels. The owners want to maximize profits at the expense of their customers.


I'm sure the Las Vegas police department and Chamber of Commerce went to great lengths to hide and obscure the details of this crime. Don't want to scare off the tourists. The shooter brought in an infantry company's worth of weapons in luggage and was never challenged by hotel security.
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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No clue.

One thing I do know is that Vegas has billions of dollars flowing through it daily which is already in jeopardy as more places around the nation embrace gambling.

A lot of people with money had a stake in this thing...that's for sure.
When's the last time you were in Las Vegas? The Strip is packed almost every day of the year. Those other casinos throughout the country might take some of the gambling revenue, but they are not and never will be Las Vegas. We will always have visitors coming here to contribute to the coffers.

Our housing and job markets are among the best in the country, as is our tax environment. Las Vegas, at this time, is not in jeopardy of anything except for maybe getting too many looney California liberals moving here.
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