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Old 10-06-2018, 08:34 PM
 
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No. Terrorism has existed since forever. Americans lost our nerve after 9/11. We have become sheep to the political whims of fear induced politics. Giving up our rights and living scared is exactly what terrorists want us to do.
I think we should be attacking those taking away our freedoms.
I have a greater chance of dying in a plane crash than being attacked by a terrorist and that chance even is quite small.
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Old 10-06-2018, 08:41 PM
 
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The first sin was trying to police the world.
I can agree with that in regard to 9/11 as it precipitated out of 1990s policing the world in the middle east. But we could've and should've had closed borders to these individuals, and open borders off and on goes back to the times when America acted more isolations such as before the early 1900s.
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Old 10-06-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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The first sin was trying to police the world.
I don't agree with you much but you hit the nail on the head here.
We are not "policing the world" for their benefit.

We are subjugating the world for our own profits, which I may add, the majority of Americans do not partake in, when they are working 3 jobs and living paycheck to paycheck.

Anytime base reduction is brought up, Army Generals, Defense Lobbyists, and Army Contractors line up outside politicians doors to put a stop to it.

If other nations started up their own defense programs, they would be a competitor instead of being a subservient puppet to Washington DC.

Some of the solutions by the MIC brought up in regards to our policing is to make these countries PAY us for our services . They get gouged for outrageous prices as we have seen and still subservient to the MIC.

It proves it is all about money and control, not protection.
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Old 10-06-2018, 08:45 PM
 
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Bomb/invade the world invite the world two sides of the globalist coin.

You can invade and bomb other countries or not, just don't have open borders because the result is the same.
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Old 10-06-2018, 08:57 PM
 
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Bomb/invade the world invite the world two sides of the globalist coin.

You can invade and bomb other countries or not, just don't have open borders because the result is the same.
If you attack a party though for globalism, which I do not subscribe to either one, you are going after the wrong people.

You have to go after the ones that have a financial interest which goes beyond party politics.

Single out and attack the profiteers in both parties and outside them so they cannot hide under party name.
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Old 10-06-2018, 08:59 PM
 
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If you attack a party though for globalism, which I do not subscribe to either one, you are going after the wrong people.

You have to go after the ones that have a financial interest which goes beyond party politics.

Single out and attack the profiteers in both parties and outside them so they cannot hide under party name.
I'm not trying to tear down the whole system per se. I just want no more immigration and trade balances...actually on second thought probably would have to tear down the whole globalist system to get those two simple things .
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Old 10-06-2018, 09:11 PM
 
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I'm not trying to tear down the whole system per se. I just want no more immigration and trade balances...actually on second thought probably would have to tear down the whole globalist system to get those two simple things .
Pretty Much
There are a lot of corrupt people we need to go after at the top.
Playing Teams and Partisan Politics allows these dirt bags to hide under a team name.

Your a Dem or Repub, yep, so what.
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Old 10-06-2018, 09:12 PM
 
Location: My House
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD7qzH4ob3Y



I believe he is not guilty of any of these sexual assault charges. The Democrats slandering him with these allegations are despicable.

But the fact he helped get The Patriot Act passed does give me pause in my support for him.

"The documents show that Kavanaugh assisted in the effort to pass the Patriot Act and drafted a statement that President Bush incorporated in the bill signing. Kavanaugh wrote that the PATRIOT Act will “update laws authorizing government surveillance,” which he claimed, and President Bush then restated, were from an era of “rotary phones.” In fact, the PATRIOT Act weakened numerous U.S. privacy laws"
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I know you can say he was just doing his job, but in this action he helped to erode some of the protections afforded by the constitution. He does as you put it "play ball".
This is part of that 90% of his work history that nobody got to see.
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Old 10-06-2018, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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This is part of that 90% of his work history that nobody got to see.
It was out there. YouTube is free if you have an internet connection.

Truth is Team Blue loves spying/violating you just as much as Team Red.

Original Patriot Act vote

Senate 99-1
House 357-66

You're owned. Might as well have a UPC symbol stamped on your head. Goes for all of us.
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Old 10-06-2018, 09:24 PM
 
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How could anyone be ok with this?
Remember they slid that into place because after September 11th, anyone that looked middle eastern or Muslim was deemed a terrorist? So the whole country united against them, and Everyone was OK with it, because...well same as now.....ignorance is bliss. Just like when people said "hey ill take off my shoes at the airport to be safe from terrr-rrists". They didnt care to look into what the law really was, they , just like now, said "I dont care about anything except get rid of the Indian looking people!"
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