Climate scientists are struggling to find the right words for very bad news (money, government)
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1. climate has and will change naturally...we have had two dozen ice ages, and two dozen interglacial periods (like the one we are in now) over the last 4 billion years this earth has existed
2. the last ice age peaked about 18000 years ago and we have been warming since... not a smooth sine wave.
3. the average of the last 10 interglacial periods has been a global average temp of about 72-75'f... currently we are at about 59'f...still have a ways to go in the nest 5000-20000 years of this interglacial period.
4. mans effect is less than 5%
5. there is NOTHING we can do to prevent the warming that is natural....
what we can do is prepare, move away from low areas and shore lines, better drainage etc.
but all the fascist liberals want is more taxes on the people, so the rich elite liberal masters can get more rich
1) Technically we are in an Ice Age right now. What most people think of as an Ice Age, is actually called a "glacial period". And currently we are in an "interglacial" within the current Ice Age.
2) The average temperature over the last 10 interglacials was not 72'F. The warmest recent interglacial was the Eemian. Which was around 61-62'F. Average global temperatures haven't been anywhere near 72'F in the past 10 million years.
3) The current interglacial period will not last another 5,000 to 20,000 years. In fact, we are currently in the most-stable interglacial in the entire Pleistocene. Previous interglacials saw rapid warming then a climate optimum which lasted a few thousand years, followed by rapid cooling/glaciation.
With the warmers, they spout one dire warning after another. Just like the boy who cried wolf.
Agreed.
They cry wolf that we will have more numerous hurricanes and tornadoes. Then we see the exact opposite, with fewer of each.
If people want to envision what a warmer planet would look like, just do a little research of what a prosperous time, and how good life was during the Medieval Warming Period. And yet.... we are all supposed to believe we will die, die, die.... if the planet warms a little.
So much of plant and animal life is concentrated nearest the equator.
Biodiversity is not distributed evenly on Earth, and is richest in the tropics. These tropical forest ecosystems cover less than 10 per cent of earths surface, and contain about 90 percent of the worlds species.
Marine biodiversity tends to be highest along coasts in the Western Pacific, where sea surface temperature is highest and in the mid-latitudinal band in all oceans. There are latitudinal gradients in species diversity. Biodiversity generally tends to cluster in hotspots, and has been increasing through time, but will be likely to slow in the future.
1) Technically we are in an Ice Age right now. What most people think of as an Ice Age, is actually called a "glacial period". And currently we are in an "interglacial" within the current Ice Age.
2) The average temperature over the last 10 interglacials was not 72'F. The warmest recent interglacial was the Eemian. Which was around 61-62'F. Average global temperatures haven't been anywhere near 72'F in the past 10 million years.
3) The current interglacial period will not last another 5,000 to 20,000 years. In fact, we are currently in the most-stable interglacial in the entire Pleistocene. Previous interglacials saw rapid warming then a climate optimum which lasted a few thousand years, followed by rapid cooling/glaciation.
If anything, we are currently living in a very cool period, as compared to the last 10,000 years.
1) GISP2 is one of several ice cores. And the ice cores from Antarctica have given significantly different results than the ones from Greenland(IE almost opposite).
2) After averaging the data from all ice cores, the Holocene has had a fairly stable temperature. The entire
Holocene has only fluctuated by about ~3'F. Which is quite remarkable.
The problem with Greenland, is that it is easily affected by changes in ocean currents because of its geographic location. And as you may be aware, the "Medieval Warm Period" was primarily a Northern Hemisphere phenomenon, not a global one.
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1) Technically we are in an Ice Age right now. What most people think of as an Ice Age, is actually called a "glacial period". And currently we are in an "interglacial" within the current Ice Age.
2) The average temperature over the last 10 interglacials was not 72'F. The warmest recent interglacial was the Eemian. Which was around 61-62'F. Average global temperatures haven't been anywhere near 72'F in the past 10 million years.
3) The current interglacial period will not last another 5,000 to 20,000 years. In fact, we are currently in the most-stable interglacial in the entire Pleistocene. Previous interglacials saw rapid warming then a climate optimum which lasted a few thousand years, followed by rapid cooling/glaciation.
nearly EVERY interglacial cycle has brought us (the globe) to an average temp of about 73'f....we are WELL BELOW that at a global average temp currently at 59'f
Nearly EVERY interglacial cycle has brought us (the globe) to an average temp of about 73'f....we are WELL BELOW that at a global average temp currently at 59'f
Your links don't support your thesis. Even the picture you linked shows the Eemian climate-optimum about 2-3'C above the current temperature. If hypothetically the current temperature is 59'F, then an increase of 2-3'C would be 62.6-64.4'F, nowhere close to 73'F. And the Eemian was the warmest of all interglacials.
Where are you getting this 73 number from? And where are you even getting the 59 number from?
But no one invented that and no one will invent it. There is no way to generate energy just from water. So the invention doesn't have to be suppressed, since it's impossible.
As I mentioned, that was a hypothetical example...why did they create the Invention Secrecy act if there is nothing to suppress? Its estimated they have suppressed classified over 50k technologies/ inventions since 1951!
btw, this is still in force today.
Im beginning to think this may be the reason all those old 'this is how the future will look' predictions of the 60s and 70s were so wrong...they never stopped to consider that Govt would not allow the public to have many of those things, due to their impact on other important industries or its impact on Govts ability to exert its authority.
As I mentioned, that was a hypothetical example...why did they create the Invention Secrecy act if there is nothing to suppress? Its estimated they have suppressed classified over 50k technologies/ inventions since 1951!
btw, this is still in force today.
Im beginning to think this may be the reason all those old 'this is how the future will look' predictions of the 60s and 70s were so wrong...they never stopped to consider that Govt would not allow the public to have many of those things, due to their impact on other important industries or its impact on Govts ability to exert its authority.
It's not just about suppressing inventions, or about govt. not allowing public to have things or exerting authority, or about important industries, although those are reasonable motives or cover stories for creating such an act.
The main reason something like an Invention Secrecy Act would be created would be to suppress/prevent or alternatively to use information gained if it becomes necessary to secretly enact mass genocides that would impact the vast majority of the world, if not all of it.
Killing. That's what it's all about. Always has been, always will be. It's mankind's nature. So what else is new?
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