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Old 10-09-2018, 05:50 AM
 
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Let's take these one by one.

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He's staggeringly ignorant.
A man that is a billionaire many times over and president of the United States - can hardly be called ignorant. His views may be different than yours - and that is what you deem ignorant.

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He's not only ignorant but resistant to learning; someone was assigned to tutor him about the Constitution and he lost interest halfway through the First Amendment.
Proof?

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He has a history of bigotry, including the time that the Feds went after him for racist tenant policies.
He is a businessman. What exactly are you referring to? Please post details.

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He has a history of misogyny, including all the predatory sexual aggression.
He's an alpha male. Please provide proof of "predatory sexual aggression". Should we bring up Bill Clinton?

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He's flounderingly inarticulate; he makes Bush Jr. look like Winston Churchill.
Seems to be communicating just fine. The man is not a politician and is certainly not as polished as some - but he has come a long way since he ran for office - and won. An

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He's a horrific bully in all aspects of his life; this is incompatible with the basic idea of an American leader.
Bull. Provide specific details of this accusation.

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He's totally transactional, and expects to come out as the winner of any exchange, and regards this only in the short term. So, for instance, he can't imagine acting cordially or generously to maintain good future relations.
Bull. Trump has short-term and long term goals and great relations with many US and world leaders. He is a negotiator. We are beyond political correctness in case you haven't noticed.

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He's phenomenally greedy, using his status to accumulate more wealth.
He's working for $1 /yr. and donating his salary to Veterans and other causes. His wealth has gone down since taking office.

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He's cruel and vicious beyond the boundaries of normal civil interactions, whether it's a matter of the constant spewing of insults, or his mean ideas of how to treat women, black citizens, poor families, etc.
Bull. Please provide specific examples of your allegations.

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He's xenophobic.
Bull. He wants common sense immigration and protection against terrorists. That's not xenophobic no matter how you may try and spin it.

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He's paranoid beyond the bounds of normality. For instance, he fears being poisoned. He's a germaphobe. He imagines conspiracies everywhere.
A fear of being poisoned by the left is probably not out of the question. Provide proof that he is a germaphobe. There are conspiracies everywhere - and the news is full of rougue Dems and deep state trying to take him out.

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He is petulantly self-centered and narcissistic. Not only is he totally focused on "winning," but for anything that doesn't glorify him, he announces that it's "fake" or "rigged" or "unfair."
False. Provide specific examples of your accusations.

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And, well, have you noticed that he's undermining health care, undermining women's rights, undermining civil right, undermining voter rights, undermining environmental protections, undermining our free press?
None of these are true. The healthcare system is broken beyond recognition, he supports womens rights, is fighting for civil rights for Americans, wants the voting process protected and secured (being fought tooth and nail by dems to not have it fixed), reducing useless bureaucratic environmental regulations and is calling out a totally biased press/media for the corrupt reporters they are. They don't provide news - they provide opinions which is not what the press is supposed to do.


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That's just offhand, off the top of my head.
What else you got?

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Old 10-09-2018, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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Let's take these one by one.

A man that is a billionaire many times over and president of the United States - can hardly be called ignorant. His views may be different than yours - and that is what you deem ignorant.

Proof?

He is a businessman. What exactly are you referring to? Please post details.



He's an alpha male. Please provide proof of "predatory sexual aggression". Should we bring up Bill Clinton?

Seems to be communicating just fine. The man is not a politician and is certainly not as polished as some - but he has come a long way since he ran for office - and won. An

Bull. Provide specific details of this accusation.

Bull. Trump has short-term and long term goals and great relations with many US and world leaders. He is a negotiator. We are beyond political correctness in case you haven't noticed.

He's working for $1 /yr. and donating his salary to Veterans and other causes. His wealth has gone down since taking office.

Bull. Please provide specific examples of your allegations.

Bull. He wants common sense immigration and protection against terrorists. That's not xenophobic no matter how you may try and spin it.

A fear of being poisoned by the left is probably not out of the question. Provide proof that he is a germaphobe. There are conspiracies everywhere - and the news is full of rougue Dems and deep state trying to take him out.

False. Provide specific examples of your accusations.

None of these are true. The healthcare system is broken beyond recognition, he supports womens rights, is fighting for civil rights for Americans, wants the voting process protected and secured (being fought tooth and nail by dems to not have it fixed), reducing useless bureaucratic environmental regulations and is calling out a totally biased press/media for the corrupt reporters they are. They don't provide news - they provide opinions which is not what the press is supposed to do.


What else you got?
So his salary is $1 a year. I bet the charities he donates to are overjoyed.

If the health care system is broken beyond repair, why haven't the Republicans fixed it? They have had the power to do so for over a year and a half. Their plan, continue Obamacare.

Oh, yes. Restricting abortion is ''sticking up for women's rights''. Tell me another good one.
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:13 AM
 
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I'll chime in.

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1. He's a national embarrassment, and has damaged the U.S.'s standing with the rest of the world so badly that our image may not recover in my lifetime.
Disagree. He is unconventional and is rejecting globalism. The rest of the world (and specifically socialist countries) are imploding due to the weight of entitlements. They are used to taking advantage of the US and we owe no obligation to them for their shortcomings - beyond humanitarian assistance.

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2. He has zero interest in bringing this country together. Tearing everything apart and turning us against each other is a talent he possesses in abundance
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Bull. It is the progressive left and their sense of entitlement that is tearing this country apart - not Trump.

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3. He couldn't care less about climate change, and doesn't even pay lip service to doing anything about it.
Most climate change science is bought and paid for with govt. funding. The world is millions of years old and going through natural cycles. Going back 150 and using that as a starting point for climate change is ridiculous. We are facing global cooling not global warming and people should acknowledge that this whole climate change meme is designed to generate more taxes and revenue for govt. Not saying it doesn't hurt to care for the environment - but most of what we are expected to believe is based on bogus science paid for by govt to get the result they want.

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4. He uses people's ignorance against them.
How so? Be specific.

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5. Tariff wars.
Trying to better the US long term for financial stability as the worlds reserve currency slowly moves to China.

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6. He doesn't listen to people with more experience who are trying to advise him; instead he gets his "info" from Fox News, etc.
Bull. That's liberal crap.

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7. He has let the Far Right appropriate him for their own purposes, because the power grab is all they're good for.
Huh?

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8. He idolizes leaders like Putin and Kim Jong Un.
He respects them as leaders. The whole Russia thing is a dem setup hit-job and NK was a loose canon.

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9. Even though he should be trying to govern, he still acts like he's campaigning with stupid "lock her up" rallies.
He's gotten more accomplished in the short time he's been president - and he is campaigning - to bring America together. Everyone is welcome to attend his rallies.

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10. He and the Far Right are responsible for the ballooning deficit due to the tax cuts that benefit the rich 1% far more than the rest of us. "Trickle down" never really does trickle down, does it?
This is a joke. Obama increased the national debt more than all other presidents combined before him. Trump understands the world economic stage and has made the strategic move to greatly reduce taxes to attract business and create jobs in the US. That takes time. You can't argue with the drop in unemployment and growing economy and most of the deficit comes from govt. debt and entitlements issued and promised well before Trump even considered running for office.
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:17 AM
 
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So his salary is $1 a year. I bet the charities he donates to are overjoyed.

If the health care system is broken beyond repair, why haven't the Republicans fixed it? They have had the power to do so for over a year and a half. Their plan, continue Obamacare.

Oh, yes. Restricting abortion is ''sticking up for women's rights''. Tell me another good one.
He takes $1 and donates $399,999 to charity. Regarding your other two questions: remove all dems from congress and healthcare would be fixed in a week. No one has restricted abortions - you are a typical leftist crying wolf.
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:22 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Because he's the only one who has ever, in the history of the United States, tried to PURPOSELY divide us.

All other presidents have tried to unite us.

He is the very worst president in this history of the US, because his goal is to divide us, and glorify himself.
Very succinct and accurate. I can't think of any president who has purposely tried to fit us into "us" vs. "them." The "us" generally being white Christian American born males, and the "them" being everybody else. Them gets treated as second class citizens with little representation in government, in his view.
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why do you think Trump is the worst president?
Not only is he the worst, he is by far the worst, and I thought we would never have anyone worse than "W".

Trump is actively working to turn citizens against each other, actively working to silence free press, actively and consistently attacking individual citizens, actively working to undermine FBI and law enforcement, actively trying to destroy our relationships with our strongest allies, he embraces (falls in love) with tyrants, actively and deliberately promoting an economic model which will accelerate the increase of debt, actively trying to force the healthcare system to fail, actively waging an unnecessary trade war. On top of all that he is resorts to childish mud slinging using his twitter, and re-posts fake news without caring to check where the stories originate from.

The list goes on. I can't think of another president who is so hell bent on making US a worse and more divided country. We need someone like Colin Powell to bring people together again.
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:23 AM
 
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If you want a nation in which its citizens fail, its "leaders" are corrupt, other nations prosper off the backs of Americans, corruption is the standard by which policies are carried out, you will believe Trump is the worst president.

We had Clinton and Obama who were very much supported by leftists, RINOs and Democrat alike.

They were considered great by those who literally despise President Trump, his administration and all who support him.

There you have the motive behind the attempt to remove President Trump from office.

If you want globalism, Trump ain't your man.
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:25 AM
 
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Why worst?

1. Trade deficit with China worsened
2. Stock market isn’t moving up anymore
3. Trade relationship worsened with Canada and Mexico
4. Tariffs cost American public money

Those things matter a lot. Right, it’s all on the money side. Strategically, it’s costly on the money side. Things like toughest on migrant children do not match with what matters.
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:27 AM
 
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He's not the worst president....anyone who knows history will attest to that. He is a BAD president given that he has brought down our international standing, but the worst thing about him is that he has skyrocketed ignorance on both parties to stratospheric heights, as is evidenced by posts in this forum. Intolerance and stupidity used to be background noise in life, but now both platforms have found megaphones to argue about how much better they are than the other side.
Personally, I am $$ profiting by his platform right now, so I don't have any qualms about it.

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Old 10-09-2018, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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Trump supporters love their globalism, direct from the Kremlin, interfering in our elections. They take their orders indirectly from master Putin.
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