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Old 10-10-2018, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
You set a curfew within your own home. What's odd is you wanting someone else or a collective of someone else's to do it for you.
Do you also need someone to tell what time to wake up, eat lunch, go to bed?
No.

All laws/ordinances cramp *someone’s* style - that’s the whole point of enacting them in the first place. All I’m saying is that there is nothing new about these kinds of laws, and that a town has the long-accepted legal right to enact them. Now maybe they shouldn’t have that right, but that would have to be ruled on by a Supreme Court and AFAIK, there is no mass social call for changing this situation. And that’s what it would take.
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Old 10-10-2018, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Maybe they should start doing Tricks instead of getting Treats. That will fix them. RCMP will be up in arms! lol!
Once again as a Canadian, I am bemused by the ignorance of Canada Canada = RCMP.

The city has it's own police force.

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Old 10-10-2018, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Probably wouldn’t be legal here, but I’m not sure about nazi Canada.
Well your comment certainly fell flat.
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Old 10-10-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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So adults in Canada aren't able to roll their eyes and say no to teenage trick-or-treaters, they need a law against it instead?

To clarify: The adults in one city of Canada are behaving exactly like the whole state of Virginia and the city of Belleville, Illinois.

Cities ban teenage trick or treaters -- put age limits on who is allowed out on Halloween - NY Daily News

"In Virginia, several cities have had trick-or-treating age limits on the books since the 1970s. City officials from Meridian, Miss., to Bishopville, S.C., and Boonsboro, Md., have cut off the trick-or-treat age at 12."

I guess adults will be adults wherever.
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Old 10-10-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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No.

All laws/ordinances cramp *someone’s* style - that’s the whole point of enacting them in the first place. All I’m saying is that there is nothing new about these kinds of laws, and that a town has the long-accepted legal right to enact them. Now maybe they shouldn’t have that right, but that would have to be ruled on by a Supreme Court and AFAIK, there is no mass social call for changing this situation. And that’s what it would take.
No one person, govt., or other fictitious entity should be determining when you can go outside or who you can associate with. Enjoy staying in that playpen that mommy and daddy govt set you down in.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:09 PM
 
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No one person, govt., or other fictitious entity should be determining when you can go outside or who you can associate with. Enjoy staying in that playpen that mommy and daddy govt set you down in.
Last time I trick or treated would have been over 60 years ago but it actually required more then me going outside or associating with anyone. It actually required me to knock on someone's door and yell the phrase while holding out my bag for more goodies to be deposited.

We're not talking about the infringement on anyone's right of association here in any shape or form.

But, you already know that.

Now when you can walk down the center of your main street nude without getting arrested, you can claim you're free from all those "playpen" rules yourself.

Until then, would you please pass the plastic rattle that's laying there right beside your soother?
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Last time I trick or treated would have been over 60 years ago but it actually required more then me going outside or associating with anyone. It actually required me to knock on someone's door and yell the phrase while holding out my bag for more goodies to be deposited.

We're not talking about the infringement on anyone's right of association here in any shape or form.
Ummmm...you were freely associating with the people who were giving you candy.

A government preventing people and threatening them with punishment for exercising their freedom of movement is the very definition of infringement of their right to freely associate.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Last time I trick or treated would have been over 60 years ago but it actually required more then me going outside or associating with anyone. It actually required me to knock on someone's door and yell the phrase while holding out my bag for more goodies to be deposited.

We're not talking about the infringement on anyone's right of association here in any shape or form.

But, you already know that.

Now when you can walk down the center of your main street nude without getting arrested, you can claim you're free from all those "playpen" rules yourself.

Until then, would you please pass the plastic rattle that's laying there right beside your soother?
Please don't give him any ideas!
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Ummmm...you were freely associating with the people who were giving you candy.

A government preventing people and threatening them with punishment for exercising their freedom of movement is the very definition of infringement of their right to freely associate.
Perhaps a lawyer can tell us how it works in both Canada and the US, but my feeling is that the rules that can be applied to minors may be different than adults.

We already restrict where minors can go in many regards. Would a 16 years old win a case that their rights were violated because the festival beer garden on public land, refused to let them and their friends congregate their?
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Same here, even though the 16 year old's only ever wear their football jersey as their costume. Really?
My daughter wore her gymnastics clothes one year age 15-16. Her warm ups, not a leotard. Not in late October at night in Colorado! Anyway, someone asked her to do a trick, so she did a cartwheel.
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