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There is to the extent that we end up paying for insurance and public resources for the damage done by drug addicts. Again, come back when we live in a completely libertarian society and your position will make more sence.
If Republicans had a pair they'd completely eliminate all public resources; however, they're nanny-Statists, and as such, they never will.
The easiest way to a completely libertarian society is to just stop believing in the State. Simple. I stopped believing in Santa when I was 6, and stopped believing in the State when I was 33.
There is to the extent that we end up paying for insurance and public resources for the damage done by drug addicts. Again, come back when we live in a completely libertarian society and your position will make more sence.
If you are fighting this war based on money and public resources, you are on some pretty thin ice. The amount of money spent fighting The War on Drugs far eclipses money spent on drug addicts. We are talking Trillions of Dollars. It's not even close.
Prohibition isn't social damage; it's violation of property rights. They're completely different.
It is MUCH more than a violation of property rights.
When someone has their career ruined permanently and branded a criminal, is that a property right violation?
When an innocent child or a law enforcement officer takes a bullet during a botched drug raid, is that a property right violation?
When 1000's are killed in drug wars south of the border that are being needlessly funded by black market drug money, is that a property right violation?
When children are removed from their loving home and loving parents because of a plant found growing in the back yard, is that a property right violation?
When teenagers are drawn to drug use because its illegality makes it more glamorous, is that a property right violation?
I could go on, but hopefully you get the drift of how catastrophic The War on Drugs is, even when taking property rights violations out of the equation.
If you are fighting this war based on money and public resources, you are on some pretty thin ice. The amount of money spent fighting The War on Drugs far eclipses money spent on drug addicts. We are talking Trillions of Dollars. It's not even close.
It’s not just the public resources. The toll on other persons, families and relationships is huge. I was talking to an EMT friend of mine about a month ago and he went on a call where a father found his son OD on drugs and had a heart attack. Dad died, the drug addict son lived. That’s the real world reality of drugs.
There is to the extent that we end up paying for insurance and public resources for the damage done by drug addicts. Again, come back when we live in a completely libertarian society and your position will make more sence.
But we're not talking about "drug addicts", we're talking about marijuana users. I see a lot of problems with Meth users, not MJ users.
It’s not just the public resources. The toll on other persons, families and relationships is huge. I was talking to an EMT friend of mine about a month ago and he went on a call where a father found his son OD on drugs and had a heart attack. Dad died, the drug addict son lived. That’s the real world reality of drugs.
See my previous post concerning some of the carnage being caused by The War on Drugs. It is applicable to my reply here to you also, because it is very real world.
I am glad to see you introduced the humanity element into your argument. You mentioned one tragic case, I mentioned millions.
You seem to be rather blind to the fact that the method we have chosen to deal with tragedies like the one you mentioned is causing more damage than it is preventing.
Our current method of fighting the problem is insane. It is akin to having a child that you warned to not touch the hot stove because it would burn their finger, then instead of tending to the burned finger, you cut their hand off for punishment when they touched it anyway.
It’s not just the public resources. The toll on other persons, families and relationships is huge. I was talking to an EMT friend of mine about a month ago and he went on a call where a father found his son OD on drugs and had a heart attack. Dad died, the drug addict son lived. That’s the real world reality of drugs.
This thread is specifically about Pot, not about every illegal drug out there. Please try to focus.
Not that its a good thing but we have worse problems then people smoking grass.
“My studies in this area lead me to a very uncomfortable conclusion: Our citizens would be far better off if we removed all the psychotropic drugs from the market, as doctors are unable to handle them. It is inescapable that their availability creates more harm than good.” – Peter Gøtzsche, MD
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