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Old 10-10-2018, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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Well I perceive leftists and their rhetoric and policies a serious threat to whites and their countries and cultures. By your standards I should be able to violently silence them.
This should end this conversation.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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My point is that in a society that holds Free Speech as a Natural Right not to be infringed, that the entire concept of "Hate Speech" is invalid. Yes, people say hateful things, but that doesn't mean we should censor, oppress, or jail them like the are doing in Europe, and Canada. Fortunately, there is that little pesky 1A.
Hate speech existed before the era of laws, constitutional amendments and modern definitions -it was the precursor to one clan of cave clan dwellers, exterminating another clan of cave dwellers.

I'm all for hate speech -it's prudent to know who your enemies are.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Well I perceive leftists and their rhetoric and policies a serious threat to whites and their countries and cultures. By your standards I should be able to violently silence them.
If that's what you really believe, then sure, why wouldn't you?

But I wouldn't say silence them - it's not about silencing, but about survival.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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If that's what you really believe, then sure, why wouldn't you?
So rather than open dialogue basically you're advocating for a left vs right violent conflict .
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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So rather than open dialogue basically you're advocating for a left vs right violent conflict .
You think left/right is the only divide on this planet?

Your misunderstanding comes from only seeing hate speech in a modern PC context -it's older than that.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:41 PM
 
Location: IL
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Who decides what is "hate" speech?
the media
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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PC people wouldn't be that bad if they wern't so damned hypocritical with their "standards" and 100% intolerant of anyone who thinks differently from them.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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You think left/right is the only divide on this planet?

Your misunderstanding comes from only seeing hate speech in a modern PC context.
Let me put it this way, I don't care that if say Jews and muslims are divided or what other divisions exist in the world, only that democrats are dividing America in their own words into "the people of color" vs "whites". That's the division I'm concerned about.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Let me put it this way, I don't care that if say Jews and muslims are divided or what other divisions exist in the world, only that democrats are dividing America in their own words into "the people of color" vs "whites". That's the division I'm concerned about.
Yep, not really an argument for me obviously.

My point was in response to the claim that hate speech doesn't exist -I say it's always existed, but shouldn't be confused with the debate/division you're referring to.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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People don't realize how moderate others are because they are silent = the Silent Majority.
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