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Old 10-16-2018, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Update from today, Trump asked the prince if he knew anything and he vehemently denied.
Now he claims we need to find out the facts but he didn't seem to have a problem speculating about rogue agents earlier.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:02 PM
 
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Update from today, Trump asked the prince if he knew anything and he vehemently denied.
Now he claims we need to find out the facts but he didn't seem to have a problem speculating about rogue agents earlier.
Jesus. Evidence is pointing to Saudi security forces being responsible. Saudis could come right out and admit to the murder (which they just about have) and Trump would STILL insist they're innocent. Give me a break. I hope Congress doesn't stop with this, and I hope the media and global outcry doesn't let up. I don't give a damn if Jared is BFFs with the crown prince. This is just another ridiculous Trump stunt that is sickening.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:03 PM
 
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The cover story is that the interrogation went askew as one of the participants went beyond orders.

Khashoggi had been banned in Saudi Arabia after his op-ed pieces criticized the Trump administration last year.

He was also a militant Wahhabi Muslim and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood which has been connected to the armed revolts by jihadiis in the MENA over the last ten years.

Media fights for Khashoggi
If you throw a stone at a group of Saudi Princes, there is a good chance you will hit Muslim Brotherhood and terrorist supporters.
MBS is not going after all the Muslim Brotherhood supporters, just the ones critical of his rule. Which is as old as time itself.
He is just another Saddam like Tyrant ruling with an iron fist.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:07 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Not sure if this was posted yet (not gonna read all 22 pages).

But the suspect named by Turkish authorities has been clearly seen traveling with the crown prince on many occasions. If Trump continues this rouge killers nonsense he's going to look like a payed for stooge of the Saudi propaganda outfit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/w...di-prince.html
Good link. Starting to get some names now. None of whom, of course, could be reached for comment.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:12 PM
 
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Good link. Starting to get some names now. None of whom, of course, could be reached for comment.
Looks like new evidence is coming in constantly. Hopefully the idiot in the White House will get a clue. But only if he's forced to get a clue. He has too much invested with the Saudis to ever come out against them unless he had to.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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The intelligence, described by U.S. officials familiar with it, is another piece of evidence implicating the Saudi regime in Khashoggi's disappearance last week after he entered the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. Turkish officials say that a Saudi security team lay in wait for the journalist and killed him.

The intelligence poses a political problem for the Trump administration because it implicates Mohammed, who is particularly close to Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser.

On Wednesday, Kushner and national security adviser John Bolton spoke by phone with the crown prince, but White House officials said the Saudis provided little information.
Saudi crown prince ordered operation to lure and detain journalist Jamal Khashoggi, U.S. intercepts show - Chicago Tribune

I'm sure Trump who curtsied to the Saudi King, to show his love of DESPOTS, is thrilled over the murder of a journalist!
Ever since they've been the biggest oil producing nation on earth, every single President of the United States has kissed the Saudi royal family's ass and kissed it often.

There simply isn't a way to make political hay out of this. Both parties are equally unwilling to stand up to the Saudis. We'll see if Trump can be the first one in living memory, but if he isn't then he's just par for the course.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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The cover story is that the interrogation went askew as one of the participants went beyond orders.

Khashoggi had been banned in Saudi Arabia after his op-ed pieces criticized the Trump administration last year.

He was also a militant Wahhabi Muslim and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood which has been connected to the armed revolts by jihadiis in the MENA over the last ten years.

Media fights for Khashoggi
Yeah, like you just sorta accidentally happened to get a little over the line and out of bounds with your handy-dandy surgical saw you just happened to have along - never know when you're going to need a surgical saw, now, do you? - and just sort of happened to start dismembering the guy when you were "questioning" him about his application for a form for his fiancée so he could get married.

Right. Just a little misunderstanding and a little excessive enthusiasm, no doubt. Hey, maybe it was a sort of bachelor party prank, y' think?? Those fun guys just don't know when to quit sometimes, do they?
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:25 PM
 
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Looks like new evidence is coming in constantly. Hopefully the idiot in the White House will get a clue. But only if he's forced to get a clue. He has too much invested with the Saudis to ever come out against them unless he had to.
Take a close look at Kushner in this horror, too. Blood is on hands other than those actually operating the surgical saw...
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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Take a close look at Kushner in this horror, too. Blood is on hands other than those actually operating the surgical saw...
You better believe it. It's all unimaginable. We're living in a horror show.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:35 PM
 
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The saddest part is that the Saudis will endure almost repercussions for this. Just like 9-11 and the endless amount of other atrocities it committed.
Do you mean "no repercussions"?

Our government flew many prominent Saudis who were in this country, including members of the Bin Ladin family as well as the Saudi royal family, out of the United States back to Saudi Arabia on Thursday, September 13, 2001. It was done at the order of then-President George W. Bush. I am sure most of the people who were flown out were innocents - but wonder just how thoroughly they were checked, given what happened 48 hours previously.

They flew from my hometown airport, in the midst of the fabled thoroughbred horse farms of the Bluegrass - many of them owned by Saudis and other Arabs who play active roles in the horse business and are well-known and generally respected, extremely wealthy breeders of extremely valuable horses. Others had hastily converged on Kentucky, on presidential orders, many of them driving long distances to get here and get out.

I drove out of town to Atlanta that day on a previous planned trip, and learned of the Saudi evacuation later - not implying I could have stopped it, but that I had no knowledge of it until the story broke in local talk well before it hit the press officially.

That's the bare bones of the story - but there has to be more. Why not offer them protection within this country until all could be checked? Why the haste to get them out? Was it truly for the protection of the innocent or to keep mouths conveniently shut?
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