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Old 10-16-2018, 09:37 PM
 
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Jesus. Evidence is pointing to Saudi security forces being responsible. Saudis could come right out and admit to the murder (which they just about have) and Trump would STILL insist they're innocent. Give me a break. I hope Congress doesn't stop with this, and I hope the media and global outcry doesn't let up. I don't give a damn if Jared is BFFs with the crown prince. This is just another ridiculous Trump stunt that is sickening.
Will someone please explain to Trump what luminol is, and that the Turkish investigators made use of it today?
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:46 PM
 
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Will someone please explain to Trump what luminol is, and that the Turkish investigators made use of it today?
Absolutely. And it will go through 7 layers of paint and bleach. But I doubt that even the facts will sway him. They haven't thus far on any other issue.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:51 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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The thing is if Trump had criticized Saudi Arabia, the liberal media and the Democrats would be criticizing him for being racist against a Muslim nation, like they did when he tried the travel ban from a number of terrorist nations that were Muslim.

There's absolutely nothing Trump can do to placate the liberal media and the Democrats.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:56 PM
 
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The thing is if Trump had criticized Saudi Arabia, the liberal media and the Democrats would be criticizing him for being racist against a Muslim nation, like they did when he tried the travel ban from a number of terrorist nations that were Muslim.

There's absolutely nothing Trump can do to placate the liberal media and the Democrats.
But the innocent and unsuspecting victim of a vicious and deliberately torturous murder, which gives every evidence of having been ordered by the Saudi crown prince who is also Jared Kushner's good buddy - was not only a legal American resident, but was also a Muslim.

That doesn't quite fit into your premise, does it?

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Old 10-16-2018, 10:02 PM
 
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The thing is if Trump had criticized Saudi Arabia, the liberal media and the Democrats would be criticizing him for being racist against a Muslim nation, like they did when he tried the travel ban from a number of terrorist nations that were Muslim.

There's absolutely nothing Trump can do to placate the liberal media and the Democrats.
Trump got plenty of criticism for that hoodoo with the magic glowing orb and the unisex male sword dancing that he enjoyed so much at the Saudi-fest he attended several months ago. He is like a child, easily impressed and flattered by the flamboyant and "exotic".

Especially if his hosts are doing major business with him and he thinks he can turn said fest into a big bucks payout for himself and his interests.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The thing is if Trump had criticized Saudi Arabia, the liberal media and the Democrats would be criticizing him for being racist against a Muslim nation, like they did when he tried the travel ban from a number of terrorist nations that were Muslim.

There's absolutely nothing Trump can do to placate the liberal media and the Democrats.
^^^This - - amounts to total disconnect from reality....and the ignore list gets another addition.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:09 PM
 
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The thing is if Trump had criticized Saudi Arabia, the liberal media and the Democrats would be criticizing him for being racist against a Muslim nation, like they did when he tried the travel ban from a number of terrorist nations that were Muslim.

There's absolutely nothing Trump can do to placate the liberal media and the Democrats.
Whatever gave you the idea that Trump has ever tried to "placate the liberal media and the Democrats"? He is divisive, not a peacemaker or a seeker of common ground in everyone's mutual interest.

Trump termed ALL Democrats "the Mob" this past weekend, at his little rally right down the road from my home in conservative but not far right Kentucky, where traditionally ordinary folks have gotten along pretty well regardless of views. Turns out only around 1,500 of those present at the event were even eligible to vote for Andy Barr (actually Garland Hale Barr, IV), for whom Trump was supposedly stumping, but I digress. There were protesters - always will be at such events - and they were mannerly and peaceful, hardly a "Mob".

At my age, and as a retired public servant, a church member and holder of two degrees, I don't think I am being a mobster when I choose to peacefully attend a rally or protest and hold up a sign or a flag or chant, "Tell the truth!".

That's being a patriot, as far as I am concerned, and I fly my flag with the best of them. "Mob", indeed.

Projection on Trump's part, once again as ever. It's one thing when he tries this on his political opponents, who see right through him - but when it comes to murder, with strong and growing evidence that highly placed officials within the Trump administration had prior knowledge of Kashoggi's eminent danger - yet failed utterly to warn him - that's something else entirely, and it would behoove people of good will on all political sides who value honor and innocent human life to hold Trump's feet to the fire on this one.

What is the value of an innocent human life? What is the worth of a man? Was there complicity, and if so, who?

Did someone say, "Just let us have this one, and then we can talk business?" What sort of devil's bargain was made?
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The cover story is that the interrogation went askew as one of the participants went beyond orders.
Doesn't everyone travel with an autopsy specialist who brings with him a surgical bone saw? Clearly, no one should leave home without both must-have travel items. You never know when you might need to butcher someone.

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What is the value of an innocent human life? What is the worth of a man?
The value of an innocent human live and the worth of a man is exactly as Trump told Trish Reagan tonight on FOX -
a multi-billion dollar arms deal he wasn't going to screw up for Lockheed, Boeing and whomever else benefits.
It is always all about the money.

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Old 10-16-2018, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Cupertino, CA
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US has lost moral authority with this fool Trump.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Florida
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For those wondering what is the big deal about a "reporter". Here is more information from Wikipedia:
A number of prominent Saudi Arabian princes, government ministers, and business people were arrested in Saudi Arabia in November 2017 following the creation of an anti-corruption committee led by Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman (also known as MbS).
There are three alternate theories regarding the motives behind the purge: a genuine corruption crackdown, a project to gain money, or preparing to take over the crown.[1]
Khashoggi fled Saudi Arabia in September 2017.

Khashoggi befriended Osama bin Laden in the 1980s and 1990s in Afghanistan while Bin Laden was championing his jihad against the Soviets in dispatches.

Khashoggi is the nephew of late, high-profile Saudi Arabian arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, known for his part in the Iran-Contra scandal,[15] who was estimated to have had a net worth of US$4 billion in the early 1980s.[16][17] Jamal Khashoggi’s cousin, Dodi Fayed, was dating the UK's Princess Diana when the two were killed in a car crash in Paris.[18]
This was a very influential person, and seemed to be involved in a conspiracy to take out the prince who is next to the throne.
Rumors floating around that MBS is either being imprisoned or could be dead because he hasn't been seen in over 4 months, and he's one of those guys who loves the camera and attention. I do not know how true this is, but people have been saying he's been a supporter for many human rights, especially for women, and it's got the traditionalists over there angry.
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