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View Poll Results: Should we trust the people who wrote this "tipping point" and do everything they are recom
Yes 47 37.01%
No 80 62.99%
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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..the fix is always we give it up...so the rest of the world can pollute more than we did..we are already eating less meat

Developing Countries See Sharp Rise in Meat Consumption

As the world population rises, the demand for meat, eggs and airy products is soaring in developing countries.

the demand in those countries has increased at what it calls a staggering rate in recent decades.

“Urbanization and rising incomes particularly in developing and emerging countries. China, Brazil, India – they’ve all seen their middle class or consumer class rise over the last 30 years. And what tends to happen when people have a little bit more money to spend is they spend it on higher quality food. They tend to buy more milk or cheese or meat,”

“In the developing world, particularly sub-Saharan Africa, meat can be a tremendous boost to people’s diets. It can provide important nutrients that they weren’t getting before, especially for malnourished populations; and it can really help people, especially children, develop better. But what we’re seeing not just in the industrial world but also in developing countries is over-consumption of meat. Because it’s cheaper than it’s ever been more and more people can consume it,” she said.

People in developed nations continue to eat the most animal products. But the report says the “appetite for animal products is stagnating or declining in many industrial countries.”

https://www.voanews.com/a/decapua-fa...55/179917.html
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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..the fix is always we give it up...so the rest of the world can pollute more than we did..we are already eating less meat

Developing Countries See Sharp Rise in Meat Consumption
The developed world will have to as well. Lets hope science denying right wing politicians decrease worldwide so we can see a world that our grandchildren can enjoy and not choke in.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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That is ridiculous.
Is it?

How much does animal agriculture and eating meat contribute to global warming?

Eating meat is not really the issue its the agricultural meat industry and the way they operate that's the issue.

Humans are the parasites of earth.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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The developed world will have to as well. Lets hope science denying right wing politicians decrease worldwide so we can see a world that our grandchildren can enjoy and not choke in.
“In the developing world, particularly sub-Saharan Africa, meat can be a tremendous boost to people’s diets. It can provide important nutrients that they weren’t getting before, especially for malnourished populations; and it can really help people, especially children, develop better
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Is it?

How much does animal agriculture and eating meat contribute to global warming?

Eating meat is not really the issue its the agricultural meat industry and the way they operate that's the issue.

Humans are the parasites of earth.
Correct its really the companies that are to blame. Individual action while great is really a drop in the bucket the companies need to be taken to task not joe sixpack who likes a steak every once and awhile.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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“In the developing world, particularly sub-Saharan Africa, meat can be a tremendous boost to people’s diets. It can provide important nutrients that they weren’t getting before, especially for malnourished populations; and it can really help people, especially children, develop better
Yes but meat everyday thats a massive luxury especially since meat will likely continue to become more unaffordable to the average person.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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So the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (A production of the United Nations) Special Report 15 is announcing yet another climate “tipping point,” this time 12 years away (conveniently at the end of the next decade in 2030).

Of course there have been numerous other such "tipping points" by essentially this same ideologically bound group of people that have come and gone without the doom scenarios predicted by these prognostications coming to pass. It is a clear pattern and practice of behavior that no intelligent, independent thinking, honest person will even try to deny.

So, all fossil fuel use must be completely stopped by 2050. That is 32 years. The logisitics of that are completely impossible and the people writing this report know it.

But wait, there is more. The world must spend $2.4 Trillion per year to transition the world to "renewable" energy. When they say "the world" must spend, know for certain that they expect the United States to shoulder the vast majority of that load.

All that to supposedly "stop" average global temperatures from rising 0.5 degrees above what they were at the end of the little ice age, which ended about 1850 - which was a low point in the temperature cycle.

So, is this latest "tipping point" warning report something we should literally shut off and destroy our economy for, immediately and with full deference to the warnings of these same people who have been so consistently wrong for so many years?

Never mind that we do have some electric car and city transit train bus designs. But we have not mass produced enough reliable, sustainable electric automobiles, semi-trucks, buses, dump trucks, bulldozers or passenger line aircraft. We don't have any mass produced alternatives. If there is an electric version of a passenger line aircraft, it has a crappy range.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:57 PM
 
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. Lets hope science denying right wing politicians decrease worldwide so we can see a world that our grandchildren can enjoy and not choke in.
The democrats are in on it too...they had a majority..that's how we got Obamacare
..you think global warming is so important to them they just forgot?
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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The democrats are in on it too...they had a majority..that's how we got Obamacare
..you think global warming is so important to them they just forgot?
Democrats are center right...
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The climate experts are telling you that man made climate change is real and needs to stop.
Too bad they're unable to prove it, and never have found the slightest bit of such proof despite 40+ years of trying.

There's a reason for that.
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