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Get real, Americans are sending this out of control maniac packing in 2020.
I truly don’t think that’s going to happen. (I despise the man) Democrat’s don’t have a good candidate, they keep feeding the Trump frenzy and they just don’t get it. Trump is a horrible human being, but the government is going in the direction conservatives want. Look at the Supreme Court, immigration they are “winning”
LOL people kept saying Georgia would vote for Hillary. Too bad it wasn't even close.
I don't know anyone who thought Georgia would go blue in 2016. But Trump only won the state by 5.1%, down from Romney's 7.8% win, so not overwhelming by any measure.
The five states referenced have all had their own political trajectory in recent years, and if they are moving from red to blue, there have been a lot of bumps on the way.
*North Carolina - not really as it is still a light red state. Democrats can win there some of the time in state races, but currently they have an overwhelmingly Republican legislature and Congressional delegation, plus two Republican senators. The more urban counties like Mecklenburg and Wake have certainly trended blue, but many rural counties have gone in the opposite direction.
*Colorado - it does seem to be turning light blue the majority of the time, but still has one Republican senator. The state remains competitive and a more forward looking Republican who talks more about technology and less about social wedge issues would likely have better prospects than Trump.
*New Mexico - the state is moderately blue but hasn't really been red for a long time. The odds are probably in favor of getting a Democratic governor this year and keeping their two Democratic senators.
*Virginia - Republicans have been losing virtually all elections by small margins for the last several years. The message of "drain the swamp" may not be well received by the large number of residents working for the federal government or associated organizations. Regionally, the state is still pretty red outside the large metropolitan areas, but the growth is concentrated in the blue counties and cities. I think this is the state that supports the "red to blue" thesis the best.
*Arizona - maybe this will change in November, but the state hasn't voted for any Democrat to a major office for years. There is certainly the potential to turn blue with the influx of young, diverse in-migrants from California but many conservative retirees from the north are also flocking to the state. Until the state actually supports a Democrat, like Sinema for Senate, it is premature to include the state on this list.
After Trump carried the states by large margins, it's worth noting that states like Ohio and Iowa may not be good prospects for Democrats to win again in the future despite their past success. Missouri's days as a national bellwether are over as it has become solidly red, and while Minnesota hasn't chosen a Republican for president since 1972, it's likely just a matter of time until that changes. In fact, there is a possible future where Illinois is the only blue state between the Rockies and Atlantic Coast. Political realignments go in both directions so those focusing on only the states moving in their favor are missing part of the picture.
I truly don’t think that’s going to happen. (I despise the man) Democrat’s don’t have a good candidate, they keep feeding the Trump frenzy and they just don’t get it. Trump is a horrible human being, but the government is going in the direction conservatives want. Look at the Supreme Court, immigration they are “winning”
I think your assessment is accurate. Americans will tolerate a lot from a reckless, unlikeable president if they perceive the country is safe and their financial situation is good enough.
I truly don’t think that’s going to happen. (I despise the man) Democrat’s don’t have a good candidate, they keep feeding the Trump frenzy and they just don’t get it. Trump is a horrible human being, but the government is going in the direction conservatives want. Look at the Supreme Court, immigration they are “winning”
The five states referenced have all had their own political trajectory in recent years, and if they are moving from red to blue, there have been a lot of bumps on the way.
*North Carolina - not really as it is still a light red state. Democrats can win there some of the time in state races, but currently they have an overwhelmingly Republican legislature and Congressional delegation, plus two Republican senators. The more urban counties like Mecklenburg and Wake have certainly trended blue, but many rural counties have gone in the opposite direction.
*Colorado - it does seem to be turning light blue the majority of the time, but still has one Republican senator. The state remains competitive and a more forward looking Republican who talks more about technology and less about social wedge issues would likely have better prospects than Trump.
*New Mexico - the state is moderately blue but hasn't really been red for a long time. The odds are probably in favor of getting a Democratic governor this year and keeping their two Democratic senators.
*Virginia - Republicans have been losing virtually all elections by small margins for the last several years. The message of "drain the swamp" may not be well received by the large number of residents working for the federal government or associated organizations. Regionally, the state is still pretty red outside the large metropolitan areas, but the growth is concentrated in the blue counties and cities. I think this is the state that supports the "red to blue" thesis the best.
*Arizona - maybe this will change in November, but the state hasn't voted for any Democrat to a major office for years. There is certainly the potential to turn blue with the influx of young, diverse in-migrants from California but many conservative retirees from the north are also flocking to the state. Until the state actually supports a Democrat, like Sinema for Senate, it is premature to include the state on this list.
After Trump carried the states by large margins, it's worth noting that states like Ohio and Iowa may not be good prospects for Democrats to win again in the future despite their past success. Missouri's days as a national bellwether are over as it has become solidly red, and while Minnesota hasn't chosen a Republican for president since 1972, it's likely just a matter of time until that changes. In fact, there is a possible future where Illinois is the only blue state between the Rockies and Atlantic Coast. Political realignments go in both directions so those focusing on only the states moving in their favor are missing part of the picture.
I appreciate this detailed response. And I agree with you that if you're only looking at states moving in one direction and not the other you're missing the bigger picture. A number of posters in this thread have named states going the opposite direction of my OP.
Which is great, because I didn't want this thread to turn into left versus right. I was interested in having a discussion about the shifting trends across the country.
If there's anything we can all rely on being as solid and true as a hot summer day is long, it's that damned old Blue Wall. That impenetrable, unbreakable statue of Democrat power and control, something we'll never have to worry about failing, faltering or even flexing.
If there's anything we can all rely on being as solid and true as a hot summer day is long, it's that damned old Blue Wall. That impenetrable, unbreakable statue of Democrat power and control, something we'll never have to worry about failing, faltering or even flexing.
haha, if anything there's a red wall.
The EC has given 2 Rs the presidency despite losing the popular vote this century.
The only one that comes close to being blue is NM.
They have a dem state house, dem state senate and two dem senators.
But the gov is Rep, and so is one of the three House members.
CO comes close too, but all the rest are mostly rep.
AZ has a rep governor, state house, state senate, 6 of 9 house districts and both senators.
NC has a dem governor and that's it.
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