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I oppose it because there are many that are simply too lazy and abuse the system. Sure there are many that need assistance but so many others that can afford the newest cell phones, cigarettes or tattoos shouldn't be receiving assistance as they feel the need to spend it on the above mentioned items instead.
Yes conservatives are more concerned with punishing people to make a point as opposed to supporting policy that every sane country has enacted for centuries.
Yes conservatives are more concerned with punishing people to make a point as opposed to supporting policy that every sane country has enacted for centuries.
Define punishing.
I didn’t know that asking people to earn their own living is a punishment.
It's more a human issue ...
I tend to side with community welfare of sorts. That 30 cents to aide a single parent put food on the table is better then a dollar that I have to fork over to build a wall or pay for a bullet to go into a kid minding his own business.
I'm neither liberal,conservative. ..republican or the recently debasing democrats. I'm a tax payer who understands that some programs are necessary for the good intent it has overall.
Why shouldn’t you get a deduction on your taxes? If you are giving away money to the less fortunate, it’s not like you get to spend that money on yourself or your family.
It’s not like it is your income anymore, so why should you have to pay income taxes on money that you are giving away?
Giving money to the less fortunate is morally reprehensible.
I didn’t know that asking people to earn their own living is a punishment.
There aren't enough jobs... In fact with no welfare it would hurt the rich just as much as the poor. Crime would go up the economy would suffer. If it got bad enough you might even see a political revolution. Short sighted conservative policies will doom this country.
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Why Many "Conservatives" or Republicans Often Oppose Welfare
IF they really oppose welfare, WHY don't they speak up against things like the billion$ sent to Israel that get funneled back to the MIC as corporate welfare or the $12B Trump proposes paying farmers as a bail-out for the problem he created?
There is a big assumption in most of the posts in this thread. The assumption is that those who are on welfare simply need to have more work ethic to get off welfare.
It's not true. If you are born with an IQ of 80, you have a tough row to hoe no matter how hard you work. You will probably fail despite your best efforts. At some point you realize the futility and give up.
Welfare is a palliative not a cure for many, maybe most, who receive it.
The biggest flaw in the system is rewarding those who have children with more welfare. When on welfare, having children should be penalized, or at least have no effect on benefits.
People don't like to talk about this because it's social Darwinism and is incredibly depressing. So we maintain the fiction that outcomes in life are mostly due to environment and behaviors. The flip side of this is the constant hectoring the marginalized receive about trying harder.
For many people, employment is not in the cards and the humane solution is to give them subsistence benefits. However those who are in such a position should not have children.
European welfare systems historically have consisted of charitable works thru churches (and due to religion most people believed it their duty to pay "alms" to beggars or the church itself, thus leading to the establishment of quangos such as "almshouses", poor houses, and work houses) as well as privately funded orphanages, the system of apprenticeships, the system of indenture, etc. Some of these were abusive and there could be cruel conditions....as anyone who has ever read Dickens will know.
However, the spirit of charity is evident in the traditions of Western Civilization.
But what it has become - is even more abusive on even more people, because its become this form of socialism or communism, and this idea that its acceptable to steal from some and give to others has infected so many otherwise rational people.
And so its the impulse for compassion and charity that has led us over the course of a thousand years, to the modern Welfare State, to which all productive persons are enslaved so that the unproductive and anti-social can be given "equal" treatment and have the same comforts as normal productive citizens who have done nothing wrong.
And this is clearly a perversion of the good nature of the human spirit.
The US unemployment rate fell to 3.7%, a 48-year low, in September
This ignores that the labor participation rate is low. Many people don't count as unemployed because they aren't looking for a job, probably because they are on SSDI or some similar program.
Labor force participation peaked in the late 90s because of Workfare programs, but many of those hired were not fit for employment and washed out of the workforce after the dotcom bust.
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